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Rockets Make Offer to Mike Miller?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by thumbs, Jul 21, 2013.

  1. t0mdotcom

    t0mdotcom Member

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    He averaged about 15 minutes a game for Miami. Let's have him come in (in the last 2 minutes) of every quarter and knock down some 3s.
     
  2. The Cat

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    We'd be signing him for the minimum (or close to it), not expecting him to be the star of the team. He's a spot up shooter, yes, and an extremely good one. He was instrumental in key playoff games for Miami in each of the past two seasons. If he had retired two years ago, the Heat probably have at least one fewer ring.

    I don't see what the debate is about adding a good shooter at the cost of a near-minimum contract and the possible roster spot of Reggie Williams, a guy who couldn't even make the rotation in Charlotte. If it works, you've possibly added a rotation piece in the playoffs. If he's too hurt, you lose what, exactly... a couple million out of Les Alexander's bank account and possibly Reggie Williams? Why exactly does that outweigh the good?
     
  3. Fullcourt

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    Agreed, I'm sure he regrets not doing that.
     
  4. mario_v

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    I would rather like to see a young 26 year old Reggie Williams get a roster spot over 33 year old, soon to be retired Mike Miller.

    Williams has been injured too but i'll give him the benefit of doubt that he'll bounce back since he's still young. Where as Miller seems to get injured every year due to old age.

    I dont want to see a roster spot being wasted on Miller just to fill up the "old DNP-CD, wise old veteran" on the team.
     
  5. Carl Herrera

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    My understanding is that for every $1 he gets over the minimum, Miami gets to reduce their obligation to pay him by 50 cents in the NBA standard set off for waived players. So, while money still helps, it's not as big a deal for one in his situation.

    When a player is "bought out" in a prearranged settlement like Camby was, often the team and the player agree to waive the set off when the player already agree to take less than he is owed.
     
  6. texanskan

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    This makes no sense. The bench will be changing from year to year you always want the best player
     
  7. yahboyryan

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    You guys totally forgot Francisco Garcia... Guy can knock down threes
     
  8. Carl Herrera

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    It is not about who you'd rather see in July.

    It's about which of the guys shows that he can still play leading into next season. The team will have more than 15 guys on the roster, with many players on minimum (some guaranteed, some not) contracts. The team see some hope for each of the guys they signed but cannot be certain that they will be good. They will need decide on the 15 to keep and decide on a rotation based on who actually performs during the training camp and preseason.

    "Signing minimum wage guys" is the new "buying 2nd round picks" (now that the NBA puts a $3M or so per season limit on cash included in trades). You know that many of the wont work out so you get as many as the rules allow and hope that at least one becomes useful.
     
  9. TheBeard

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    guy was on the verge of collapsing in that indiana series.....do not want.

    that bad back is not getting better anytime soon, ask t mac
     
  10. meh

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    Yep. Reggie Williams of the world appear every offseason. Player of Mike Miller, at least his play on the court, is generally worth significantly more than minimum.
     
  11. iJHolmes

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    screw mike miller, bring back reggie miller. We can play him the last 2 mins of every quarter. vet min. just so we can get some 3s
     
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    Apparently you missed game 6. 2 legs, one shoe...
     
  13. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    When Mike Miller initially became available, the thought of him on the Rockets had me kind of meh. But the more I began to think about it, the more I am really hopping the Rockets get him.

    Miller clearly would fill the Delfino role which has already been mentioned a number of times. I see the Rockets doing a lot of "small ball PF" with Parsons, Casspi and hopefully Miller. So I can see Miller getting decent rotational minutes on the Rockets. And he seems like chemistry-wise he would fit in well with the team.

    I know Miller played in Memphis before, and they clearly could use his services with outside shooting since they are really lacking in that, but if Miller is chasing another ring, I don't think Memphis is a good choice. I think they have a slightly down year this year.
     
  14. Carl Herrera

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    Mike Conley is promising free golf for one year. Harden needs to step up with free lap dances for one year if Miller signs with Houston.
     
  15. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Harden will introduce him to real holes to fill.
     
  16. finsraider

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    Thank you. So just doing a little math:

    Houston or Memphis Minimum Offer
    Heat Portion: $6.2 million
    Houston Min: $1.2 million
    Total Income: $7.4 million

    Houston Room Exception
    Heat Portion: $5.5 million
    Houston RE: $2.65 million
    Total Income: $8.15 million

    Memphis MLE
    Heat Portion: $4.23 million
    Memphis MLE: $5.15 million
    Total Income: $9.38 million

    So Memphis can offer an extra $2 million per year plus a 3rd contract year (2015-2016) over the Rockets minimum offer, or about $9 million more in guaranteed money. That's not insignificant, but I'd be VERY hesitant to give him that 3rd year if I were Memphis.
     
  17. KlutchQT

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    Hate that I laughed at this. LOL.
     
  18. OTMax

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    When we go small it's going to be Garcia, Casspi, Parsons. Mike Miller has looked like a shell of his former self, which wasn't that good to begin with. Since he came from the Heat, he will probably expect playing time and I don't want him to take away anything from Garcia, Williams & Casspi.
     
  19. justtxyank

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    Casspi has shown nothing that should make you worry about his playing time.

    There's no guarantee whatsoever that Casspi OR Williams will play well enough to deserve minutes. Both of those guys just might be NBA scrubs.
     
  20. megastahr

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    if memphis does that ...they are dumb.

    Full mle for miller? man thats just stupid....he wasnt worth that when the heat did it. But they had to get a guy like him

    I am sure if we lose miller for that then rockets can get neal.
     

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