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Rockets made serious offer to JJ Reddick

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by justtxyank, Jul 19, 2017.

  1. heypartner

    heypartner Member

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    It's in the tweet in the OP. Click the tweet it links to. That linked tweet is the Podcast announcement. Redick does these podcasts of his own occasionally.

    I also gave a direct link a few pages back in my post with bullet pt summary.

    Anyone know where he is posting the documentary of this free agency
     
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    I took as just not getting the full details about the Houston deal.

    Is it ballholic that makes impossible for you accept this? Financial troubles.....
     
  5. heypartner

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    I don't understand this post. The podcast and documentary are chalk full of details by Redick. What wasn't mentioned about the Houston offer that you would like more detail on.
     
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    This doesn't make a lot of sense to me, given that Redick and Gordon kinda would fill the same role. I wonder if the idea was to sign Redick at a cheaper contract than Gordon, making Gordon expendable in a trade. This would have made a lot of sense if Rockets at the time were thinking Gordon would be gone in a PG13 trade. Having Gordon AND Redick isn't the worst idea, given that Harden and Paul can both play PG and at times Rockets will undoubtedly play three guard lineups, but it just seems to me like that money would be (and was) better spent on a defensive guy like PJ Tucker.

    The other thing that never made sense to me is what the Rockets offered Iguodala.
     
  7. YOLO

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    Iguodala signs here, then no pj tucker
     
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    Yeah but the reports made it sound like Rockets offered him way more money than Tucker. At least enough to leverage a better deal with Warriors. I don't know where that money would have come from.
     
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    i thought the reports of what hou was offering was fairly identical to the contract PJ signed for?
     
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    I'm not sure it ever got out exactly what the Rockets offered, but the Warriors reportedly offered 12-14 2 years guaranteed and a partial guarantee on third year, then the Rockets must have made an offer that beat that, because Warriors ended up signing him for 48M over 3 years, or 16 a year. So maybe Rockets offered 4 years and 32M, not sure if that's competitive with that first Warrior offer though. Could be more money but more years...idk. Tis a mystery.
     
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    it got me thinking though who would people rather have for this team, PJ at $8mil or Iguodala for $12-16 mil
     
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    OT - Re: Iguodala offer(s)
     
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    Unless it was a SnT for Iggy like 'holic says was the deal for Redick....:eek: j/k There was no SnT for Redick

    Your question applies to Redick, too. That is: If we give Redick the MLE, no PJ Tucker. Seems clear we offered 3yrs of MLE money, but no 4th year like Tucker got. But also seems clear, Redick got the right of first refusal via that phone call from MDA.

    Woj reported Redick deal at 2:10pm and Shams reported Tucker deal at 10:40pm.
     
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    What reports were saying we offered Iggy "way more money than Tucker", that is, way more than the MLE? Albeit, Tucker shared the MLE with Zhou, but Zhou only took like $800k of it, the minimum.

    Like you said, "I don't know where than money would have come from."

    I mean, even Bima speculated for fun that technically Morey could/might try to convert Tucker's agreement to sign into a SnT deal with the NG bros, but that saves the trading partner (Toronto) no capspace versus just letting him go. We'd have to sweeten the deal with a pick. None of that even happened.
     
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    It's interesting that the Rockets (ownership) wouldn't go to a 4th year (as Redick says in the documentary). Feels as though he would have committed had he gotten it fully guaranteed.... I feel much better with Tucker on the salary we got him at.
     
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    He said

    Wasn't interested because he felt like he wouldn't get a big enough role. Wanted to start, wanted to finish games, knew he wouldn't get that here, felt like he would be redundant next to Eric Gordon off the bench.
     
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    Yeah, that was just one of his points though. And he had to know Harden was the SG starter, but was still waiting for MDAs call. His big knock on Philly was instability. He made it sound like if we added the 4th yr that PJ Tucker got he goes with the stability of not having to move in a yr that he and his wife really wanted.

    He didn't turn us down for just role, because he also said we're the only contender of the 6 or so suitors, too, so understood. He mentions balancing role, contender status, money and length ... and it was still hard enough decision that right after talking to MDA on the phone, he told his agent he'd need several hours to talk to his wife and decide,but his agent said Philly needs an answer in one hour.
     
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    I feel like he made the right decision though, he will have a great year in Philly, will put up some inflated stats, and will likely get a big 3 year deal next off season. He likely made himself an extra 10 mill by signing with Philly.
     
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    On the surface it seems to have worked out for everyone. We'll just have to wait and find out. Purely speculation but I think that they wanted Redick and then were going to dangle Gordon into a Melo offer or elsewhere.
     
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    idk about great year. a guy that needs to play off someone to be effective. i don't see him having a better year than playing next to cp3 all these years. i could see his numbers inflate a tad if he could score on his own but don't really see that. im expecting his %'s to drop
     
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