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Rockets Looking to improve via trade

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TheGreat, Jun 3, 2008.

  1. GATER

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    This is the quote...

    "Don't look for much help from the free-agent market, because re-signing Carl Landry won't leave them much below the luxury tax level."

    They currently have ~$64.5m committed. It's a matter of interpretation. If they use only the LLE or some part of the MLE to re-sign Landry, HE effectively is the MLE signing.

    To make Landry your only Summer 08 FA signing because you'd rather throw the $ at him and not a player worthy of a full MLE is foolish. It's doing things on the cheap, it's banking heavily Landry will have no further knee issues and you've done nothing to address a talent deficit.
     
  2. slowmustang

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    And the Rockets give up what to get the #3 pick?
     
  3. Hayesfan

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    And Morey didn't say that. The writer of the article said it. It's conjecture. The only things that Morey said were in quotes.
     
  4. sTeKcOr22

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    I guess, but I am sure there is someone better.
     
  5. MrButtocks

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    Who is realistically going to take the MLE in the free agency market that addresses a talent gap? Remember that we have no bird rights on Landry, so if we sign someone for the MLE we'll lose Landry to anyone who offers at least $1.7 million. It's either Landry or MLE target; we can't have both. So please tell us specifically who you would give up Landry for.

    And by the way, you quoted the author of the article and not Morey.
     
  6. jump shooter

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    Hayesfan, what free agent money do the rockets have outside of the MLE that is capable of resigning Landry?
     
  7. JusBleezy

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    I honestly think Memphis would rather destroy their entire organization than trade with the Rockets.

    I'd welcome moving up to get O.J. Mayo though. I'd welcome the heck out of that.
     
  8. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    You guys really think he would tip his hand to the Chronicle in June?

    Honestly?

    DD
     
  9. jump shooter

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    Good post.
     
  10. Hayesfan

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    I have no idea that's what I am asking. Because Morey didn't say in that article that he would use the MLE for Landry.

    I am not a cap specialist that's for darn sure, but it didn't seem that Morey said publicly in this that he is going to use the MLE on Landry.

    That's my point.

    Gater is saying that he came out and said that, which would be tipping his hand, correct?


    My god DD, its two days in a row we completely understand one another... may be a miracle ;)
     
  11. saleem

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    Even if he didn't say that,it's not going to change a thing. We have no money for a solid FA signing.A sign and trade will amount to adding one and subtracting another. No one will take our junk(expiring picks) or Hayes for a big player. Battier and Rafer won't be able to get anything of note in return.
    Gasol type deals happen very rarely.
     
  12. jump shooter

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    I think he is tipping his hand about resigning Landry using the only money he has available which is the MLE. I think he did it on purpose to avoid potentially having to overpay for Landry and letting every other team know your wasting your time throwing out an offer and waiting seven valuable free agent days to see if the rockets will match.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    He could sign him with the LLE too.

    DD
     
  14. Hayesfan

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    Okay that sort of makes sense. That he wanted the other teams to know that we wouldn't let Landry go so that it sort of forces the hand of anyone thinking they could offer him more money.

    But wouldn't that drive up the price he will have to negotiate with Buddy for Landry's contract or will it decrease it.

    Also does this help him negotiate trade scenarios with other teams for the draft?

    I am honestly just trying to understand the market of the NBA players. It's really interesting to analyze how it works.
     
  15. forchette49

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    Landry will command more than, what is the LLE now, nearly $2M per?
     
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    who is out on the market, and willing to take the MLE, that could put this team over the top?

    I don't think someone the caliber of mo pete or stromile swift is necessarilly going to make a very large impact on this teams W/L.

    anyone worth having that is planning on becoming a free agent will require a S&T or have to agree to play for us at a discount.
     
  17. jump shooter

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    But DD, do you honestly think that the LLE can get it done. Objectively Landry is a stud and most players don't contribute until their second year, plus look at what he's already done. He's the rocket's best finisher.
     
  18. GATER

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    First, you are 100% wrong that they can't use both the LLE and the MLE. The only consideration is whether they want to go above the LTAX.

    Secondly, I'm not going to detail a list of FA's so that the names on the list become more important than the fact. The fact that they intend to stand pat because they think they have enough talent. All I can tell you is go look at the list yourself and tell me that because you won't go over the LTAX, you'd only bring in Landry as opposed to someone else on the list.

    My choice is Pietrus. Personally, if acquiring Pietrus meant losing Landry...I'd be fine with Hayes as backup PF.

    Yes...I quoted the author. Here's Morey's related comment...

    "We're probably going to have to upgrade through trade," Morey said, "as opposed to free agency."

    Connect the dots however you want. Morey's comments distill down to one thing...the Rockets feel they have enough talent and are standing pat for Summer '08 while waiting for a trade deadline '09 talent upgrade.
     
  19. Angkor Wat

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    I don't know about that. It's going to be a small contract so who else is willing to take that amount? Our options will be limited. Maybe we can snag a vet for the minimum but that would all depend on if hes willing to take that.
     
  20. jump shooter

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    I don't think its' about standing pat for the summer of 08, but it's about using your biggest asset which is the expiring contracts when they are the most valuable and that's right before the trade deadline.
     

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