Rockets lineup of death

We don't have a death line up. Truth sucks sometimes. Death line up doesn't mean whatever happens to be your best line up.

 

All offense lineup:

Harden
Gordon
Wiltjer
Anderson
Nene

 

Well, there's nobody stopping Wiltjer from playing the 3.... only the defensive scare.

 

The Rockets don't have a death lineup because they don't have a guy that can play center and make 3s like Draymond Green. They can't put 5 guys on the floor that can all shoot and play defense. This is silly.

 

fwiw: Ryan Anderson did play some center against Bogut

And I have been Fact Checked on that.

And don't shoot the messenger

 

I wish we did man. We definitely definitely don't have a death lineup. I think you're fundamentally misunderstanding the concept.

A death line up murders virtually every combination of players on every other team. It requires superstars and elite role players and players that can play inside n out, defense n offense with incredible chemistry. We have one superstar and a bunch of role players. Our second best player is maybe the Cavs or Warriors 4th or 5th best player, and our bottom 10 players are no better than theirs, and that's a MASSIVE gap in the NBA.

The line up you put up beat a below average team without their best player. The below average Mavs without the ageing Nowitzki. If we're being realistic, the Warriors death line up would impregnate our "death line up".

Our roster is not good talent wise. We aren't going to have a death squad. I know that on boards this new term "death line up" is catching on and everyone wants to pretend that they can have one too, but it doesn't work that way, and even if it did this is not the year for us. Our talent pool is weak this year.

Not attacking you or anything btw. I'm also not saying we won't have a good season given a commitment to defense from the players and some good chemistry. At the same time I just see stuff like that and I can imagine how the predictable disappointment manifests into extreme irritation later in the season. Personally I think our best line up will be:

DMo
KJ
Gordon
Beverley
Harden

 

I'm watching too. Curry hasn't been on the floor for 7 minutes now. Draymond hasn't played 2nd Q. Watch what happens.

Also, they're up by 6-7 points. That's not death!!

Edit: curry is back in

 

Lmfao, you have to be trolling. I clearly broke down why Anderson is taken out of the equation. Let me dumb it down for you I guess....

Shooters on this team:
RYno
Gordon
Dekker
Harden

How do Defenses play each one:
RYno- Face guard, push and bump, make sure he doesn't get the ball for a clean look
Gordon- Teams dare him to shoot the 3 rather than get in the paint
Dekker- Won't guard him tight until teams see that he can knock the 3 ball down with consistency
Harden- Bump and push while taking AWAY his shooter to force him to play one on one. Why? Harden is TO prone especially when in a one on one situation.....

Again, what teams are doing is guarding Harden's shooters very tight or in specific ways. Teams KNOW they can't stop Harden even if they tried so the best thing to do is pressure him into uncomfortable spots. By shutting down Hardens shooters this forces Harden to become a 1 on 1 player, I.e last night against the mavs for the final 3+ minutes of the game when they became stagnant bc players stopped moving and were caught ball watching. What I'm saying is why even TRY to stop Harden when you can't and just stop his shooter and let Harden try to beat you.
Hopefully this makes sense bc if it doesn't than not even GAWD can save you bro.

 

I want to see:

Bev
Gordon
Harden
Dekker
Ryno

 

I see what you're saying, I was just wondering if it was relevant to the post I made. It's not. That's OK, but odd of you to reply to it.

Your posts would have made sense if my question was: "How do opponents guard Ryan Anderson?" It wasn't though. My post was asking why the guy we just gave $80 million to isn't in our supposedly strongest lineup. An appropriate response is not "cuz opponents don't let him get open spot ups."

 

But it's very relevant to what you are asking

 

Funny and fun thread. So far in this very, very young season Houston does possess one of few death line ups in the NBA. At least statistically and extremely prematurely.

First, we must define "line up of death" which was coined for the Warriors of the previous season. Essentially what was happening was a line up of Curry, Igoudala, Thompson, Barnes, and Green had a net rating of +47 points according to stats.nba.com. So, basically any death line up needs to be outscoring the other team by like 40 points. To compare Houston's best line up last season according to stats.nba.com was Beverley, Brewer, Harden, Ariza, Capela with a plus 25 points.

So, who has the line up of death for this season? Well, first I had to put minutes played at >= 20 minutes because then there would be line-ups that played like only a total of 11 minutes and out scored a team like by 100 points in that time span.

top 7 death line ups:

1. Babbitt,Luke-Dragic,Goran-Waiters,Dion-Whiteside,Hassan-Winslow,Justise +32.5 points (38min)
2. Butler,Jimmy - Gibson,Taj - Lopez,Robin - Rondo,Rajon - Wade,Dwyane +30.6 points (40min)
3. Irving,Kyrie - James,LeBron - Love,Kevin - Smith,JR - Thompson,Tristan +29.4 points (44min)
4. Crawford,Jamal - Felton,Raymond - Johnson,Wesley - Rivers,Austin - Speights,Marreese +26.9 (33min)
5. Barea,J.J. - Barnes,Harrison - Bogut,Andrew - Matthews,Wesley - Williams,Deron +18 points (28min)
6. Afflalo,Arron - Barnes,Matt - Cousins,DeMarcus - Gay,Rudy - Lawson,Ty +15.7 (20min)
7. Anderson,Ryan - Ariza,Trevor - Capela,Clint - Gordon,Eric - Harden,James +15 points (42 min)

13. Curry,Stephen - Durant,Kevin - Green,Draymond - Iguodala,Andre - Thompson,Klay +11.8 (26min)



If I change the minutes restriction filter then rockets would rank 3rd for 40 minutes, 5th for 30 minutes, 6th for 25th minutes, 7th for 20 minutes. (All of these are the same line-up), Then we jump to 1st if we go to 15 minutes. (Harden-Brew-KJ-Dekker-Nene +57.8), 7th for 10 minutes, and 19th for at least 5 minutes total played.


Link to some of the Rockets line ups and how well or bad they have done in this very early season.

 

So basically there isn't a death lineup yet in the whole NBA this season right?

+47 over a whole season is insane btw.

 

Brewer was one of the highly active role player guys that fans wanted when he was an opponent and stopped wanting him after he became a Rocket.