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Rockets, it's time to sign Wang ZhiZhi!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rocketjf, Aug 26, 2002.

  1. barbourdg

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    I think its obvious that Wang feels if he returns to the motherland, he will never be allowed to leave again. We are not talking about a US citizen, we are talking about a comunist country - who has now lost face with Wang.
     
  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Wang made his bed, let him lie in it.

    Signing him to a Rockets contract would be a slap in the face of the CBA and China.

    I think the Rockets should stay as FAR as possible from Wang Zhi Zhi and continue to work with the CBA and develop Yao Ming.

    In 10 years people will know who Yao is, but Wang will be just a distant memory.

    Kind of like getting married.

    :)

    DD
     
  3. michecon

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    Quote of the morning. Now, you remind me some distant memory of my own :)
     
  4. Another Brother

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    wow that's a lotta blocks!:eek:
     
  5. crash5179

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    If it is stupid and selfish to want freedom and the right to be in control of your life and make your own decisions then count me as one of the stupid and selfish.

    Dallas and China both honored the contract that Wang signed in Duress. As far as I am concerned a contract signed in Duress is not enforceable. Wang is welcome here as far as I am concerned. This situation is much more important than a basketball career.

    Our constitution say’s that all men are created equal and with certain inalienable rights. It says all men not just Americans.
     
  6. michecon

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    Man, you make it sound like he's been wanted-for-arrest, or his parents are prosecuted or something. Or China busted his head when he signed that contract. He has his own right not to honor his words and play for China, CBA has its own right not to place him in NT under the circumstance. That's all. Every team has its own rules. Capriati ws booted once on the spot from US team at Davis Cup. I wish him luck in NBA, but I don't think Rockets need him.
     
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  7. Angry_man

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    <b> If it is stupid and selfish to want freedom and the right to be in control of your life and make your own decisions then count me as one of the stupid and selfish.

    Dallas and China both honored the contract that Wang signed in Duress. As far as I am concerned a contract signed in Duress is not enforceable. Wang is welcome here as far as I am concerned. This situation is much more important than a basketball career.

    Our constitution say’s that all men are created equal and with certain inalienable rights. It says all men not just Americans. </b>

    what the hell r u talking about. no one is focing Wang to play for his country, it is his will to breach Chinese basketball Association's rule. and CBA has every right to kick him out.
    if Wang can do his own way and still expect to be in Chinese team , then why not Yao Ming, Menk Betere and every other players do the same thing. that is just not on !!
    And how do u know Wang signed in Duress? Wang told u that ?
    what pissed me off more is he is a friggin soldier. A soldier should as least learn how to obey order.

    btw, don't expect your american constitution can apply to the whole world !!!!
     
  8. ArtV

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    I'd rather see them sign Bateer.
     
  9. crash5179

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    Wang Zhi Zhi might not be allowed to come back to the U.S. if he goes back to China and does not agree to give 50% of his contract to the CBA. That is not freedom. He should have the right to come and go as he pleases but since he does not then I support his decision to stay here and make his own decisions with out the interference of the CBA.
     
  10. Lil

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    my pathetic attempt to translate the signature:

    The Warrior of the Revolution is like a Foundation Rock,
    With Mount Tai (big mountain in China) on top of him, he shall never be able to straighten his back.

    (i.e. the responsibilities of governing a nation and staying true to ideals forever weighs upon the revolutionary faithful)

    just my guess. i ain't raised in china, but i suspect it's prolly from the little red book? :p

    Hopefully, Yao Ming will take that attitude with the greatest cause of all: Rockets, NBA Champs 2003-2013!
     
  11. Yetti

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    I think you all should lay off this subject! Remember the CBA hasn't released Yao Ming yet! FIBA must get this release prior to him signing with the Rox. Please don't chalenge the CBA we want them on our side!
     
  12. michecon

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    Just how do you know that? Man, Rumor runs deep, or is it commi paranoid? The last time CBA kicked a player out of NT (Ma Jian), he has no problem travelling to US or Hongkong or any other places. Then, again, he may not be allowed to. Technically he's still an army officer. Are you suggesting Davis Robinson should be able to go whereever he wanted while he was in the Navy? Here's a tip for you, Wang is a commi army officer, and he said publicly that he wouldn't defect, don't you feel a bit insecure with such a guy here given your reasoning?
     
  13. JamesC

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    I dont want/we dont need him either.
     
  14. crash5179

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    1. China can keep him once he gets back with in their country, I don’t think that is not even a topic for debate.

    2. David Robinson, volunteered for an all volunteer Navy. When his term was up he was free to do what he wanted and that included leaving the U.S. to live in another country if he did not like the U.S. for any reason. He did not need permission to leave and he does not have to negotiate with the Navy, NBA or NCAA if he decides he wants to play somewhere else

    3. I don't feel insecure in the slightest about Wang Zhi Zhi being over here after lying to the Chinese government so he could get out of the country so he could work over here.

    If I am wrong then fine but it is my understanding that the Chinese government can keep him in China if they want to. I do not agree with that philosophy.
     
  15. yeo

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    To me personally, the most important thing a man has is his word. I cannot respect anyone who do not keep his word. If he did it intentionally from the start, that's even more unforgivable. Of course, that's just my view on life.
     
  16. rockbox

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    This is not a place to speak politics. Wang Zhi Zhi is not a rocket and will not be in the near term so lets get over it.
     
  17. michecon

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    Maybe China can, but China did not (see earlier Ma Jian case), and I don't think will. If Wang can't leave China, it won't be because of CBA once his FIBA certi is released, it will be b/c of his special tie to the Chinese Army. Plethora of Chinese Table tennis and other athletes play overseas, no one has problem.

    Wang is a current serving officer, volunteered/recruited ealier. That's the point.

    I think you misunderstood. I'm just joking/rubbing it that Wang being a commi army officer here you may feel uncomfortable if you have such misgiving. Point being, it's just sports, CBA is just another governing entity. Holly, these ain't original debate either. My point is 1) Rockets doesn't need Wang 2) Wang isn't impeccable in handling the situation.
     
  18. crash5179

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    A mans word means very little if he does not have the freedom to say what he wants.
     
  19. crash5179

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    I at least agree with you on that.
     
  20. off_welfare

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    Wang can't stop Ming anymore...that's for sure!
     

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