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Rockets involved in talk on 3 way trade

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Dec 14, 2010.

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  1. HTown_TMac

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    Hell of a talent. Don't care for his attitude. I'm sure I'd live if we got him for a first-rounder.
     
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    Funny that the three players involved on the Rockets end are involved in this clip. Taylor traded away to make room. Williams incoming, and traded with the exception the Rockets got in the David Anderson trade to Toronto.
     
  4. Kojirou

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    We have quite a few big guys already. That's pretty much why we gave up on Dampier in the end.
     
  5. J.R.

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    @SpearsNBAYahoo: Kings acquired Jermaine Taylor and cash considerations from the Rockets in exchange for a heavily-protected, second-round pick.

    Lakers also acquired 2 2nd round picks from NJ (Golden St.-2011 & Chicago-2012) along with the draft rights to Sergei Lishchuk from Hou.
     
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    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/?eref=sinav
     
  7. BimaThug

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    NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

    :p
     
  8. J.R.

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    Haha, what are we going to do without Lishchuk?! :eek: :p

    Anyhow, both Williams and Taylor deals done.

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl...(chron.com+-+Top+Stories)&utm_content=Twitter
     
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    I know! Why couldn't we have given them the draft rights to Frederic Weis instead!!!
     
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    Technically speaking, assuming that Daryl Morey stays true to his word that he will never trade a first round pick without lottery protection, the most that the Rockets can now offer other teams in trade with respect to future first round picks is:

    (1) If the Rockets trade away the 2012 Knicks' pick: "a lottery-protected first round pick two years after the Rockets complete their obligation to convey a first round pick to the New Jersey Nets."

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    (2) If the Rockets keep the 2012 Knicks' pick: "the New York Knicks' 2012 first round pick (lottery-protected through 2015, after which it becomes the New York Knicks' own 2015 and 2016 second round picks); provided that if the New York Knicks' first round pick is in the lottery but outside of the top-5 picks at any time from 2012 through 2015, then the obligation becomes the Houston Rockets' own first round pick two years after the Rockets complete their obligation to convey a first round pick to the New Jersey Nets."

    Because of this recent trade, the Rockets CANNOT trade their 2011 first round pick (the higher of their own or the Knicks', top-1 protected) until DURING the 2011 NBA Draft. Also, the Rockets cannot trade their 2013 first round pick. This is because the Rockets could conceivably be without a first round pick in 2012 if BOTH (a) the Rockets make the playoffs in 2012 and (b) the Knicks select in the top 5 picks. While the odds are slim of that combination actually occurring, the Rockets are nevertheless without a GUARANTEED first round pick in 2012.

    Bottom line: The Rockets are somewhat hamstrung in being able to offer an enticing future lottery-protected first round pick (outside of the 2012 Knicks' pick). But I think Les and Morey are okay with that. Morey apparently values both the 2011 pick and the 2012 Knicks' pick pretty highly due to their limited lottery protection. I think the Rockets hold onto both picks unless a true star becomes available. And I think the Rockets will need to lean more heavily on the "cheap, young talent" angle in their trade proposals than on the "future first round pick" angle.
     
  11. LongTimeFan

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    Thanks for the clarification. I thought as much, but it gets a little tricky to keep it all straight at times.

    As far as the 2012 NY pick, to me that is a throw away pick. With the way the Knicks are looking and the potential to get Carmelo.. I just don't see that being very valuable. Hope I'm wrong.
     
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    I wouldn't get too excited over "Morey's word." He's a snake-oil salesman. Fortunately, he's our snake-oil salesman.
     
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    Was adding Lishchuk necessary to get the trade approved by the NBA or did the Lakers actually want him? :eek:
     
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    his shooting isn't the issue, people go thru shooting slumps, his biggest issue is that he's like a 2 dollar hooker on defense, anyone and everyone that wants a piece of him will get it.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    So is Kevin Martin, and our PGs are not great either......if you cover that up with someone better at guarding the rim you are ok.

    Tons of hall of fame players were not good on D.......

    DD
     
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    Judging by his age and mediocre stat line from the EuroLeague, I think this was done to balance the trade.
     
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    He is actually extremely intelligent, and had great marks throughout school.

    He is also a pass first player, not a shot first guy. He would much rather have the assist than the shot.

    It is truly apparent that you know little to nothing about Terrence Williams...
     
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    No matter who you have at the rim, perimeter defense is one of the most important facets of championship basketball.
     
  19. smoothie

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    not that perimeter defense isn't important, but almost every championship team was able to control the paint. generally speaking, teams that excel at controlling the paint (interior defense and rebounding) often fair better than those who don't.
     
  20. Tom Bombadillo

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    And every championship team controls the perimeter. It is critical, you need to have both.

    They go hand in hand, because you HAVE to control the perimeter to have any chance at controlling the paint.

    Obviously you can get away with some things If you have Dream, but we don't.
     

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