I wouldn't. Varejao is a decent player, but he's not exactly a stud or elite at his position. He's not worth losing a first rounder over, IMO. If we're going to give up another 1st, I'd rather we gamble on potential than a role player that plugs a hole on a mediocre team. We've collected these assets to help us make a bigger trade or to move up in the draft with. I don't like the idea of trading two of them (Hill + NY 2012 1st) just to plug in a 28 year old center. Jordan Hill could probably give you similar production to Varejao if given extended minutes like Andy gets, and he'd cost you 1/4th of the price.
I seriously doubt I could watch a single Rockets game without puking uncontrollably if he was on the team. I hope we never get him.
Jonathan Feigan says the Rockets have been after him for a looong time now. http://blogs.chron.com/nba/2010/12/transformed_in_a_month_rockets.html Acquiring him would create even more of a logjam at the F/C spots, as such, I wouldn't mind trading either Long Tall Dude or Patterson in exchange.
I guess he plays center though for us....?? He almost doesn't fit, but Morey knows a lot more im sure...... I just would not imagine us scrapping Hill and going with Andy. I guess if we was given Chucks minutes.
What exactly does he do above-and-beyond what Jordan Hill could give us for that to be worth it? He's making almost 4x as much as Hill. He better do something pretty damn well to justify me giving up another asset (two if you're trading a 1st + Hill) for him when Jordan Hill could pretty much give us the exact same thing at a much cheaper price.
Slow down, I'm not ready to bail on Hill for Varejao. I'd rather trade a pick plus MAYBE PatPat or an expiring, but not Hill. Hill looks like he's ready to just break the F out sometimes...PatPatt would be great to keep around, but he's an asset I could see trading for a player like V. In 6 years, Varejao has developed a reliable jump shot, he's athletic, a versatile defender, and he's a great finisher at the hoop. Not to mention all that energy and drive he seems to bring every game.
LOL, we might just call ourselves the Houston Bowling PINS! Varejao Scola Lowry Battier Hayes and unfortunately... Yao
Varejao would definitely fit a need. He's NOT overpaid, he's in the Gortat/Brenden Haywood area. Though I think Hill or Patterson + 1st round pick for Varejao is almost Battier like short-sightedness.
Still, I don't understand why you would do that. Who gets kicked out of the rotation, Chuck Hayes? I don't think so either. Hill would likely be squeezed from the rotation or be fighting for minutes with Chuck Hayes. Jordan Hill is only 23 years old. Right now he's currently averaging: 6.8 PPG 4.3 RBP 77% FT shooter 0.9 Blocks/Game 17.7 minutes/gm When Varejao was 23 years old and also in his second year, he was putting up: 4.6 PPG 4.9 RBP 51% FT Shooter 0.4 Blocks/game 15.8 minutes/gm Why don't we just let Hill develop into that role? It's not like we're all in this year and need a veteran presence for the playoffs. Start Jordan Hill and play him Anderson Varejao minutes. You'll get similar production plus develop one of your young bigs. When I say similar production, I mean Varejao is playing 13.6 more minutes than Hill and getting 2.6 more points; 5.6 more rebounds; and only .3 more blocks than him. Varejao is the better rebounder and one-on-one defender right now, but Hill is a young big who is getting better offensively and has shown a reliable jump shot. He also provides a better shot blocking presence; look at how he changed the game around in Sacramento. They say big men don't fully get the grasp of the game until their third year.. I'd rather give Jordan Hill more minutes in his second year to get there. I think he'll be just as good as Varejao, if not better, in the next two years. I've never seen Patrick Patterson play meaningful minutes -- I'd like to have more hope in the "6th best player in the draft" than to trade him for a role player his rookie year. It's PPat's first year in the league -- let's give him time and see what he can actually do before we start trading him for a role player in a year that we're not a serious contender. I could understand a first round pick for Varejao if we were contending and needing a big man to shore up the middle for us this year. But you gotta think, knowing that we should be rebuilding, it seems shortsighted to waste an asset like a 1st rounder on him. Plus, if we traded the Knicks 2012 1st rounder, we could no longer include a 1st rounder in ANY future trade proposals. Do we want to shoot our last bullet in that asset department for Anderson freakin' Varejao? I'd trade Battier and the Clippers 2nd rounder for him.. but I don't know if I want to give up one of Hill/Patterson/TWill/1st for him.
First of all, I couldn't care less what happens to Hayes. He's not an important cog in the championship machine. Period. Maybe I'm stretching on even giving up PP but V is a proven commodity...how many of those materialize from the draft each year? Forget his rookie stats. You know as well as I do that other factors play a huge role in the early years of any (non-superstar) player. But you gotta give to get...obviously. I don't see PatPat as being too much for V. Just me.
28 year old Vlade Divac was once traded for a mid 1st round pick. Kobe Bryant ring a bell? Other mid 1st rounders in that same draft - Steve Nash, Jermaine O'Neal, Peja Stojakovic Personally, a lottery protected mid 1st rounder for Varejao would interest me. Would anyone have been against dealing a mid 1st rounder a couple years ago for REAL backup center to Yao?
I wouldn't trade Patteron or Hill for Varejao. I would only offer up an expiring(Jeffries) + mid-to-late 1st rounder or 2nd rounder. His contract isn't too favorable with the new CBA coming up. The only "potential" I might give up is Budinger.
Varejao is an upgraded taller Chuck Hayes with a better off the ball offensive game. He would probably immediately move our defensive effeciency from mid 20s to mid teens. He can also play the high post game because he is decent on PnR and is a strong cutter to the basket. Its easy to see why the Rockets would target him. Makes much more sense than Nash.
And something caled a "Todd Fuller" was drafted right before Kobe Bryant, as I remember. Some pick for vet trades work out, others don't. It all depends on the situation (like who is projected to be in the draft, what order of pick it is and who the vet is), one cannot categorically state that this type of trade is good or bad.
