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Rockets interested in Gerald Wallace?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by mikol13, Feb 21, 2011.

  1. djohn2o12

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  2. mario_v

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    I'm not really feeling this move. Wallace isnt the answer unless theres someone else involved in the trade.

    Also, Adelman coached Wallace when they were with the kings and he never gave him any playing time. I dont really think Adelman is a huge fan of Wallace.
     
  3. Rockets Jones

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    Why Nene or Wallace, what's the logic ? Not dealing AB is smart, his value is low. Once he's back to his old form we will love him again or he will be moved in the off-season.
     
  4. LongTimeFan

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    But I live for those battles!

    It would be interesting to see what the Bobcats would want for GWall from a 'Cats fan perspective. I would assume cap relief, but you're going to have to give up a lot more than financial relief to get Gerald Wallace. Would we have enough assets to land both GWall and Nene? I'm not so sure.. we only have one first-round pick to trade.

    That said, I think DJ Augustin is on his way out in Bobcat land. Shaun Livingston has started to get more consistent PT lately -- maybe they have their eye on Brooks?
     
  5. desi tmac91

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    I'm almost certain that T-Will will be apart of the Rockets' package, he's not getting the time now and when he does develop into a starter Wallace will be ahead of him and I doubt he'll like that down the road.
     
  6. LongTimeFan

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    I think TWill and GWall play two different positions. Unfortunately, if your future is TWill @SG and Gwall @SF, you're conceding the ability to shoot the ball from distance.
     
  7. Deckard

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    Wallace's rebounding, assists, and steals are all very impressive for a 6'7" small forward. He also gets to the line a hell of a lot, something Morey really values, and is doing so this season at a rate higher than anyone not named Kevin Martin.
     
  8. saleem

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    Augustin has done well under Silas. The fact that Livingston is playing better doesn't necessarily mean that he is on the way out.
     
  9. thetatomatis

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    This. You are not getting Superstar with Bud, role player x, fillers and mid round draft pick. You need guys like Martin and Wallace in packages to get the Superstar down the road.
     
  10. ThaShark316_28

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    Reloading while rebuilding, like i said.


    Say we get Wallace and some other pieces but don't have to move Pat Pat, Lee or Williams...

    Then you draft your late lotto pick...you got 3 young pieces right there. Not to mention who else might get dealt. Also keep in mind that it's only 1-2 players that you could deal to go young IMO....(Scola [and he's over 30, so who's going to want that] and Martin). I won't count young for young (Lee for a young piece, Hill, etc...)

    I got to believe that's the Rockets approach...get some vets while acquiring young talent.
     
  11. WFU Guy

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    DJ has a sprained (left IIRC) hand and has been so for the last two weeks. If you saw the Cats play Chicago before the break, DJ ran (the hand) into a Bulls player (might have been moving through a screen, I don't recall now) and came out for most of the rest of the game. DJ has been playing pretty well until the sprain but noone is complaining that Liv has come up big as DJ has been hurting. It's doubtful he's on his way out (and it's doubtful anyone would ever entrust a starting role and those minutes to Liv w/ his knee and the maintenance required to keep him performing well). That's no knock on Liv, I love the guy and his play lately.
     
  12. waytookrzy079

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    Why would you wanna try to fit a rookie into a rotation that was winning 61,59, and 55 games respectively?

    Whose spot would you take away from those Sacramento teams to give to Wallace in the rotation? Peja, Webber, Christy, and Turkoglu all among the veteran players that led those teams to 4 consecutive 55+ win seasons. I dont see any reason to why you would wanna mess with that sort of chemistry to bring in a rookie who was not ready to play at the time.

    Once he started playing more minutes after Charlotte drafted him (in the expansion draft), it still took him a couple of years to grow into the player he is today..

    I can understand why everyone wants to see T-Will so bad, especially since this team is a #8 playoff team at best...and are currently showing no signs to being in playoff contention, but RA has shown in the past that he will play the players that show that they can play in the minutes given and in practice - see AB, Landry, & Wafer.

    Maybe they havent seen what they need to see out of T-Will yet, or they're still showcasing the current players that are in the rotation for the big trade the team's trying to make - and i think this may be the case..
     
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    i like it. go for wallace and Sjax
     
  14. justtxyank

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    I wouldn't want to give up Martin for Wallace. I think those two would compliment each other well.

    Wallace and Nene would both be quality parts to add to the roster in light of the fact that the Rockets aren't able to trade for a superstar. Just have to add good players where you can and then draft well and hope you hit on some guys.
     
  15. LongTimeFan

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    I was just talking to my buddy about Augustin after I posted that and he mentioned the nagging injury -- I was not aware of that. His play the last few weeks has been pretty crappy compared to the rest of the year, but that would explain why. That said, I don't think Charlotte would pass on the chance to upgrade their PG position (and yes, I strongly believe AB >> DJ).

    Being the Bobcats fan on the board -- what would CHA realistically look for in exchange for Wallace? You seem to follow the Rockets as well, so hopefully you have a good idea of our assets.

    He was there for three years -- I would think by then, they'd find a way to utilize his skills. The roster during his last year was:

    Bibby/Jackson
    Christie/?
    Peja/?
    Webber/Songalia
    Divac/Miller

    Yet he played 9 minutes a game. I just don't think he ever really fit into Adelman's offense, as he cant shoot from outside and is heavily dependent on driving the lane.
     
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    That's disappointing. I wanted the Rockets to trade Brooks and the NY pick last off-season. NY picks had far lesser value when they made the T-Will trade.
     
  17. JVL713

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    In the Q&A session between Morey and the fans Morey said T-Will is definitely a part of this team's long term plans, and they see him becoming a potential all-star one day.

    Keep in mind, the Rockets love to showcase players they are about to trade, so T Will not playing could be a blessing in disguise.

    Also T Will has repeatedly said he doesn't confine himself to a single position, he says he is just "a basketball player." So he can play anywhere from 1-3 depending on what the team needs, so he wouldnt be stuck behind Wallace
     
  18. desi tmac91

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    Exactly, it just makes more sense to trade T-Will than Bud. Terrence doesn't fit very well with the team in the future (unless he does become a point guard) and since he has a higher trade value than a lot of players on our roster, we may be able to keep an extra asset or two we would have to give up otherwise.
     
  19. desi tmac91

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    When you could trade him for a borderline All-Star player right now, I think it changes everything. Personally I love T-Will's game and potential and would rather not see him traded (already a fave Rocket of mine) but I don't see him working out here if we get Gerald.
     
  20. Rockets_4_life

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    A Gerald Wallace trade is for a team that is contending, not a team that's rebuilding (whether they like to admitt it or not). Hell if we still had Yao, I'd be all over this trade, but the rockets need to realize that this team has NO FOUNDATION and needs to rebuild. Which I'm hoping they realize before they get us further stuck in mediocrity with Gerald Wallace trade...
     

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