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Rockets have been researching refs and how they are calling games

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by motleydeflep6, Apr 28, 2019.

  1. MD_in_Training

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    Those weren’t makeup calls, they were propaganda calls. They want the public to hate Harden so they overlook the screw job they put on us.
     
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  2. Rocket_Man_2.0

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    Release the MOREY REPORT...expose this corrupt league! Rigged!:mad:
     
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  3. durvasa

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    The league gloats about its transparency with its L2M reports. Why not just release the reports for the entire game? I think they realize that if they did so then there will be some patterns that emerge from it which will not look so good for them.
     
  4. JW86

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    Why do people think Morey did something fine worthy? Re-tweeting gets you fined now? To me it's still kind of weak, I don't see any big statement from anyone in the Rockets organisation.
     
  5. davidio840

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    Someone doesn’t watch very much basketball.... yikes!
     
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    Only confirms the rig job.
    Nothing will be done unless more teams join the movement
     
  7. Jimmy Smith

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    Lol here we go with the "it's rigged" nba conspiracy narratives for our losses again. How about the fact that James foul baits all year and the ref's are tired of the flopping. Hit. your. shots. 0-27 from 3 not acceptable, as well as James shot percentage last night. We can go back and forth all game about missed calls for both teams.
     
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  8. Kim

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    While it's a fair criticism to say "missed calls for both teams" and it's a fair criticism to say "hit your shots," I think it's also Pollyannish to ignore 3 main points:
    1) being fouled impacts shots
    2) this article is stating that according to the NBA's own data (not a Rocket's subjective perspective), the missed calls are weighted to one side more than the other, meaning when you take all the missed calls for both sides in game 7 of 2018, the Rockets came up 18 FT attempts short. And this happened the entire series last year to the tune of a 90+ FTA deficit for all missed calls. So yes, while both teams were hurt by missed calls, if this report is accurate, then the NBA is saying itself internally to the Rockets that while it is unintentional, the referees have favored the Warriors by a wide margin with their mistakes.
    3) if this trend held true to Game 1 analysis, then the Rockets were potentially at FTA deficit of double digits due to ref error. Only the internal reports will say what the NBA thinks it should have been given the power of slow-mo replay review.
     
  9. durvasa

    durvasa Contributing Member

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    Good points. The Rockets are right to point out that the officiating has been slanted in favoring one team over another. But they need to be really careful on how they do it. Allegations that the league is purposely rigging the outcome will not be tolerated.
     
  10. fchowd0311

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    Pretty much every neutral NBA discussion area for such as r/NBA on Reddit are laughing at the Rockets over this report.

    We aren't going to be seen on a favorable light here people. Neutral NBA fans already believe the Rockets cry wolf all the time.

    People hate the Warriors dynasty in places like r/NBA but they hate Harden's antics more.

    This is a loosing battle. It's better that our next era of superstars for Houston were not so dependant on refs. Hopeful the next superstar Houston gets is a shot maker rather than a foul baiter.



    Im sorry, but no neutral arbiter is going to shed a tear for Harden and the Rockets now. We just look like whiney b****es and frankly deep down Morey understands that his lead superstar is heavily dependent on getting calls thus this is why he is incessant with the ref complaints.
     
  11. fchowd0311

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    Also the fact that very few nonRocket fans sympathize with the Rockets grievances and most believe the reverse narrative that the Rockets are the beneficiaries of floppers doesn't help.
     
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  12. fchowd0311

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    The article is stating that according to Morey's analysis of NBA's reporting, that the Warriors are benefactors. We don't know how Morey counted. That is an important distinction from what you claimed.
     
  13. count_dough-ku

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    But why did the Rockets go 0-27? Because Harden was fouled late in the first half on 2 consecutive 3-point attempts that Scott Foster didn't call and then made a 3-pointer early in the 3 quarter while being fouled by Klay that was waived off by, you guessed it, Scott Foster.

    And Klay made a wide open 3 in transition off that 2nd missed 3-pointer that Harden was fouled on. That's a 9-point swing in the first half followed by a 2-point swing(the Rockets did score a basket on that possession) in the second half on the waived off 4-point play. That's potentially 11 points total stolen from the Rockets in a game ultimately decided by 9 points.

    Bottom line, these missed calls matter. They swing the outcome of games.
     
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    While I agree some of his free throws came on questionable contact, I felt Curry and Durant got more than he did. We barely touched Durant and Curry on a few drives and they were shooting. I thought they called the drives rather fairly in that game. Durant initiates contact on multiple plays just like Harden and got the whistle.

    What’s lost in all this is that when they don’t give us the calls the Warriors got easy fast break layups. Not that we missed on 15 free throws, but we also lost it on the 10 points they scored in transition on these missed calls and the 2 technicals. League is a joke.
     
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    That’s basically where I am at now
     
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    Did anyone notice the amount of late whistles throughout the game. It was eerily similar to the Sac Kings/Lakers game. What a complete let down from the league.
     
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    I could not disagree more. Read the article - the OP posted it.
     
  18. homewight

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    It doesn't matter if he's baiting them or not, and it doesn't matter if the refs don't like it. The rules are the rules. They are not subjective. The Rockets and Harden have just found a way to score more points within the rules and scoring more points is how you win the game. If the NBA doesn't like it change the ****ing rules.
     
  19. homewight

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    Who gives a **** about what non-Rocket fans think? If pointing out facts is considered whiney, we need to be even whinier.
     
  20. Deckard

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    Someone mentioned a good point somewhere, Durvasa. The National Basketball Association is owned by the owners. If this gross disparity favoring Oakland is going on, and the league’s own research shows that it is, the owners can fire Silver, and they can insure that the referees that are creating this scandal, and that’s what it is, are tossed out on their collective butts. This doesn’t just impact the Rockets. It impacts every other team in the league. If I were an owner who paid untold $100’s of millions of dollars to purchase a team, usually because they are ardent fans of the game, this factual information would have me livid and I would want to do something about it.
     
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