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Rockets going for Kevin Durant

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Snow Villiers, Jun 25, 2024.

  1. Furious Jam

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    Jalen, Dillon, and the 10th pick, which they can use to draft a center. 2 for 1 deal opens up minutes for Cam on the wing.
     
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    Agreed. I hope we find a way to keep our young shooters. We need to continue developing Bari, Reed, and Cam. Having them out there with Amen,KD and Sengun is gonna help them get so many open shots.
     
  3. meh

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    If we take out his history with the team and just look at on-court fit? Absolutely I'd be all for him and KD on this team on 2-year deals. I think our young players can learn a lot from being with them.
     
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  4. ElPigto

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    I'm not following your trade. Brooklyn gets our #10 and they pay their returned 2027 unprotected pick to Phoenix while also taking on our veterans? On top of that, they also have to give up their 2026 FRP? So two FRPs for No. 10 in this years draft?

    Sounds like a really bad deal for Brooklyn and also a terrible deal for us giving up two picks for 38-year old KD.
     
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    Trade FVV to Phx + 10 and Cam

    trade DB + picks for a PG (Tyoung or Melo or go after Giddey

    PG Young Melo or Giddey - Reed / Thompson
    SG JG (Grimes or M Beasley)
    SF KD Tari
    PF Bari Thompson
    C Alpi Adams

    I make Thompson 6th man unless he comes back and shows he’s either improved his shooting or his play creating / ballhandling enough to offer spacing

    He doesn’t need to start we can always increase his min as needed per game
     
  6. Rokman

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    Having Durant would cause nothing but Anxiety for Rockets fans because we would all be watching each game wondering if Durant is about to get an injury, same way as it was when Yao was here. Freaking nailbiter every damn game. I hated it.

    NO TO DURANT!! Please Stone and Fertitta don't put us thought that crap.
     
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    Where is BRK giving up their 2026 pick? #26 & #27 are in THIS draft. BRK has 4 picks this year.

    The Cam for Villain trade was the over-reach. But BRK is picking up another lottery pick and getting their 2027 pick back.
     
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  8. Rokman

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    LMAO! Oh the crystals.
     
  9. PatBev

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    He played more games than Fred in the regular season

    Don't put me through watching FVV shoot 37.8% FG again. I don't think FVV was even top 30 when it comes to poing guard FG %
     
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  10. Joe Joe

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    You make it sound like challenging is just Stone working harder. "Challenging to replace our average point guard" is another way of saying multiple FRPs.
     
  11. Aruba77

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    to me this is where GMs earn their money. Stone has drafted and he has sign FA’s, but other than the Harden trade (4 yrs ago), which he had no choice to make, he really hasn’t pulled off any trades to significantly help the franchise. If u look at these conference finals and championship teams, some if the most consequential players were acquired through trade. Halliburton, Siakam, and SGA come to mind. Harden comes to mind with regard to our contending run yrs ago.

    I truly believe most of our success this season was due to Ime. So now it’s time for the front office to do the real work. If Stone can’t pull off trades that make this team better, he’s not the right guy for the job. This is where he needs to earn his money. We’ve talk about it for years; stone has been acquiring non-guaranteed contracts for years in anticipation of a trade. I’d like to see Stone demonstrate that he can upgrade the team through trade.

    There are guys available, we just need to pound the pavement until we find the right deal. The current backcourt configuration doesn’t work. To me that is obvious. We need to move on from one of our starting guards. Stone’s job is to make the team better.
     
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    If i’m the Rockets i’m mot giving up anything of significance for Durant. What has he won with talent around him the last several years? Nothing.

    Booker I’m open to but not gutting the team.

    I want the Rockets to find a 2 that can fill it up and play a little defense.

    What do the two teams in this years NBA finals have in common? Depth, youth, pace, defense, and versatility. Rockets are close imo.

    Anyone clamoring for Durant and Chris Paul are total head scratchers to me.
     
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    awfully generous.
     
  14. mario_v

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    Durant only has one or two good years left.
     
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    [Iko]
    “This is not to say the Rockets and Suns are not in communication.

    On the contrary, Phoenix is aggressive in pursuit of a) trading Kevin Durant and b) regaining full control of their draft capital starting with the No. 10 pick in next month’s draft, team sources said.

    Since the conclusion of the season, Houston has fielded several calls from Phoenix, who have since gradually lowered their asking price for Durant, those sources said.

    There is a price where the Rockets would be interested, but with a fear of breaking up their roster for a 36-year-old coming off injury, doubt remains over a deal materializing.”

    “As mentioned last month, longterm interest in Suns star guard Devin Booker has cooled, team and league sources said.”

    Rockets wait on Steven Adams, decisions with No. 10 pick and a looming Giannis question"

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    I'd take Durant in a trade for Jalen Green and their 10th pick back. Done deal. Get er dun Morey!
     
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    Do we know exactly what criteria need to be met in order to get Durant since PHX is in the second apron? I feel like some of the usual trade types may not be available but could be wrong.
     
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    I agree with you to some extent but I think it's worth noting that when Stone came aboard, most of the value on the roster was already walking out the door. Let's at least be fair here. The pieces Stone has had to make moves with have been fairly limited until the last year or so. He had future picks, but not really desirable salary to attach it to in order to facilitate an upgrade trade and the types of guys we had on the roster at the time were either young guys with very questionable upside(KPJ, Christian Wood, Jalen Green, Tate, and Alpi) or aging vets nearing retirement age(Tucker, Gordon). The mission was to sit on the draft assets and hope they appreciate(they mostly did when he converted Brooklyn's pick to Phoenix's) and build value from who he drafted by taking best available. Some of those picks turned into legit young assets - Alpi is a very good player on a very reasonable deal - that's an example of value Stone should get credit for building when he traded up to grab Alpi later in the draft.

    I think he now has the collection of picks, various team friendly contract pieces to facilitate a trade, and young talent on relatively good deals - and to your point, he has to do something about it and this is where the real strategy of it comes into play because this is no longer about keeping the best players - this is about deciding on a direction of the team and exchanging some of those "best player available" guys for a cohesive teams that is in alignment with a coach who has proven he is still one of the better young coaches in the league(even if he has room to improve). In a lot of ways, Stone's actions this transaction season is going to define his legacy and future with the team. If he can demonstrate that we have a higher ceiling after this offseason, he will have earned a lot of good will with our owners and the fans but if this team stagnates either from trading the wrong guys or from not trading anyone and seeing stunted growth from our young guys, Stone will take the majority of the blame there...and I think that IS fair. I think as long as Stone operates in step with ownership and coaching, we will be fine - making the wrong move in alignment is better than the right move out of alignment.

    Where teams really start to nosedive(especially coming out of a rebuild) is when they panic trade to expedite a timeline and it becomes more about saving their job than slowly improving the right way and falling back on a culture and process. Stone and Udoka have a path here to build that way similar to how San Antonio built a dynasty - but they gotta trust in the process and continue to pull in the same direction. That's why Stone can't just trade for some no defense scorer because clearly Udoka's method to winning starts and ends on the defensive end.
     
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    Yeah sounds like Phoenix has a target in mind for one particular player to build around. Because Phoenix is not just a "Center" away from being a contender. Unless they are just delusional (could be...) you'd want to pair Booker with a young all star caliber player who matches up well with him from a skillset standpoint.

    Booker is not an attack the basket playmaker who is one rim running center away from turning Booker into the league MVP.

    Unless there's another young all-star center out there available, I think they are talking about Sengun here folks.

    (And no I don't think Stone would trade Sengun AND PHX picks for Durant. I think he might do Sengun for Durant straight up, or filler and picks for Durant, but not what PHX wants here. )
     
  20. OremLK

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    I don't think Cam is getting minutes under Udoka either way, but I think I'm at the point where I'd do this deal. I wouldn't be on board with this trade if Jalen had been even decent against GSW, and I may be reading too much into one bad playoff series from him, but it was really bad.

    What I'd do if we did this deal would be to put Amen in the backcourt next to an extended FVV, start Jabari, and see how Amen and Sengun fare with more shooting around them.

    Only thing is--do the Suns even want Jalen? They already have too many shooting guards. It might have to be some kind of three-team trade, unless they're planning to trade Booker away as well.
     
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