I think if we trade for KD, a 3rd team would more likely be involved to move Jalen Green mainly to avoid being in the 2nd apron when it will be time to extend Amen Thompson. If we trade Dillon and Jalen, that would free up $55M and we can keep our core intact. Then, we can resign FVV for a more team friendly deal..was just evaluating the pps stats last season: Jalen Green and Dillon Brooks combined for 35ppg KD scored 26ppg - we can go with Cam Whitmore in the starting lineup who will definitely score more than 9ppg when he starts and we wont miss a beat on offense...matter of fact, our offense could be better! Amen Thompson would replace Dillon as our primary defender which would be an upgrade for us on defense! Jabari Smith Jr would be our 6th man Starting lineup: Sengun Amen KD Cam Whitmore FVV
I think maybe that roster could get you past okc. A lot of it would depend on the growth of the young guys that would still be here. If Amen, takes a huge leap...Sengun finds his inside touch again I absolutely think that roster has a shot. If Reed is still here and he plays well thats even more firepower. . BUT even if they dont win a title I think theres benefits regardless...the experience of going deep in the playoffs, really seeing if Amen is ready to be a lead ball handler... Seeing how Sengun plays with a legit scorer with him and better spacing.. These could be some things we could learn about the team and in turn, future star players around the league looking to change teams could be more inclined to want to join a team that they see is on the cusp.
I like the core concept of this trade but I don't see Brooklyn's side. I think you are probably doing #10 to Phoenix and renounce 2027 swap rights with Brooklyn back to them. Phoenix may still push for their 2027 pick, and Brooklyn may still want another pick. At that point, IMO that's too many picks for Houston to give up when you're also giving up Tari (who i consider a solid asset). Also Nate Williams isn't a plus in this for Brooklyn he's salary filler lol
Exercising the team option for FVV would likely put the Rockets really close to the 1st apron. I think it would need to be FVV and Jock + draft capital or FVV, Cam, and Holiday +pick to thread the needle in what the Suns and Rockets could both take if FVV is the one in deal for Durant. Though, trading for Durant would be a win now move. Getting rid of a win-now player like FVV would be counterproductive in a trade for a win-now player like Durant, especially considering the Rockets would not be very flexible after the trade to balance the roster (e.g., no starting PG, no backup center, no NT-MLE, hard capped at 2nd apron, only about $15M below 2nd apron needing 4 players). Also, I think the Suns would want the Rockets to be well below the 1st apron (i.e., FVV's trade option isn't picked up such that Rockets have to send others instead) such that the Rockets would send less salary to the Suns to help the Suns get out of the 2nd apron. I'm very skeptical FVV's team option is picked up unless it is for a player that will be a Rocket for a while. I think the Rockets would jump through hoops for Giannis if Milwaukee were to want FVV. I think Booker would work as Booker would be the de facto PG, and the Rockets could then try to keep Adams and fill out roster with whatever is left below the second apron.
How about instead, PHX trades us Booker and we will give them Jalen, Cam, Jock, #10 and one more of their FRP. There’s your center!
Agree with this. I don't see the logic in trading for Durant but then hoping and praying that Jalen becomes a competent NBA starter this coming season and Reed becomes our starting point guard. If Stone gives Ime input (and he will), the deal would be after July 1st and involve Jalen, Cam, Jock and maybe Aaron Holiday. Sending Jalen to Brooklyn as part of the deal would be a reasonable option as well. We'd probably be giving back control of the Suns 2027 and 2029 picks in that scenario. FVV
as sad as it is, the Rockets can’t really function without FVV because the alternative options are that bad and no, weak handles Amen “my assist rate is barely higher than my turnover rate” Thompson and Reed Sheppard are not adequate starting PG options for a team trying to go far in the postseason
You add some nuts, fruits, and honey/maple syrup to your oatmeal, and it's not so bad bro. The alternative is that you eat plain oatmeal and well, I rather just not eat if that's the case.
I don't see how anyone doesn't want KD. Ultimate plug and play floor spacer. The man shot 52% FG and 43% 3pt. Can you imagine that on the perimeter? I am willing to take the gamble losing FVV for a future HOF, MVP, multi scoring champion, easy money sniper. Most of us were done with Fred by the end of the regular season anyways Run that point between Amen, Reed, and Sengun. You can always trade Green & Reed for a PG next season if Amen and Reed can't get it done
If Stone is a good enough GM, he should be able to find a FVV replacement on the market, like the Wolves did with Mike Conley in his later years.
Would u take plain oatmeal over overcooked eggs or hard rubbery pancakes that could be used as frisbees?
I hear the concerns about trading FVV and I do think he’ll rebound from a bad season, but I have a feeling the Suns woukd be very happy to have him because they are trying to change the culture and they have a gaping hole at that position. Plus the expiring gives them badly needed cap relief next offseason. I would hope Houston could get creative with a subsequent move to get his replacement. Jalen, Dillon and Cam (even Reed) should all be available for the right upgrade at the point. I would think that some combination of those players could net you a Darius Garland or as part of a 3-team deal. durant Sengun Amen Bari Tari Garland Plus one of the leftover “core” guys (let’s say Reed) is a scary 7-man rotation. Plus we’d still have most of our draft capital. We shouldn’t shy away from a KD deal just because it may be challenging to replace our average point guard.
I wonder if CP3 would come if KD can convince him. A CP3 on limited minutes or no back to backs would be great for Reed and Amen development and getting reps
You could do two separate trades. Durant for FVV, Holliday, and Cam Booker for Green, Bari and Landale Then all the PHX picks back. Amen/Reed Booker Brooks Durant/ Tari Sengun/Adams Just need to add a vet wing.
Who says no? BRK: #10 + get back rights to 2027 FRP + FVV (HOU) + Dillon (HOU) fits into TPE would need to renounce Russell PHX: Claxton (BRK) + Cam W (HOU) + #26 (via BRK) + #27 (via BRK) + 2027 PHX FRP (via HOU) would get below both aprons HOU: KD (PHX) + Cam J (BRK) + #19 (via BRK) Need to renounce Tate + Bullock & Boban Adams (2 years, $28M with PO on Year 2) Amen - R33D Thrilla - KD - Tari Cam J - Bari Alpi - Adams Still have TPE + could offer Landale in trade
I am always hesitant about giving a rebuild team their FRP's back. That was why you acquired them in the first place. And don't like giving up #10 in a deep draft that could see several players with higher upside potential than you normally see at #10. I'd have no problem giving up FVV and Cam(mostly b/c Ime won't play him). To me, KD gives you probably a 2 year window assuming he stays healthy. Main reason I am limited on what I would give up.
I think CP3 is out of the question cause of what Tilman did to him. I don't know who this guy would be myself, but then I'm just a fan with no wide NBA knowledge. But Stone is getting paid the big bucks so it's hist job to identify this player.
He probably wouldn't but I see it as a good spot for him. Both him and KD could let the young guys in Amen, Green, and Sengun do all the heavy lifting
I don't like giving them up for KD, but if your intent to get them was to have leverage for Booker, make that deal. If you can't get that done, then keep the picks and flaunt that you continue to get Top 10 picks from a team that was too stubborn to rebuild while you continue to be a home court team in the playoffs. Now, that only works if you nail the picks.
I’d feel pretty comfortable giving up #10 as part of a KD deal. I think the value in this draft is later. But I would not want to give up any of the future picks. There’s nothing the suns can do in the next couple years to crawl out of the basement.
