TIL that Kelel Ware, Jabari Smith Jr, Tari Eason, Rob Dillingham, Steph Castle and Reed Sheppard are all more valuable trade pieces than Jalen Green. Can't even re-route him and his Wingstop commercials anywhere. Stone out there getting worked by Draya and Kevin Porter Jr lol.
Why would anybody believe the reports. Don’t be so naive. Every report is engineered for someone’s agenda. None of these guys no sh*t. Especially reports being handed out by Phoenix sycophants. I can understand Phoenix only wanting Jalen as a trade piece, because Booker sucks as PG. If they can’t find a trade partner for Jalen it’s because they are asking for too much. I’m not even convinced the Rockets want to trade Green. As for adding Tari in a trade package that doesn’t include Jalen, that is fine. There is not doubt in my mind that the Rockets will only be able to afford to extend one of Bari and Tari, if that’s the holdup for Durant then they should go ahead and include him.
I think the Wolves would be happy as clams to include Gobert if it netted them Durant. I agree Riley is too smart to include Ware. Hell I’d give more for Ware than for Durant.
I had role player expectations for Jabari. I was very active in the thread you are referring to. The receipts are there. I said in that thread many of the things Vecenie is pointing out. I had Jabari's upside somewhere between Deandre Hunter and Jerami Grant.
I think you keep going on about his dribbling ability when it really isn't needed for him to dominate games. He's 6'10. If he drains three points shots and middies he could average 20+ off of open shots and pick and pops. Dirk is one of the greatest players ever and did not have close to the handle of Chris Bosh, who was better? No, Jabari is never going to dribble like Garnett or Durant, no one is saying that, but what people are saying it is possible for him to become a better shooter and to find his lane in the NBA and get good at that. It's also possible that he will get a bit stronger as bigs usually do as they age in the NBA. We have no idea if Stone and the Rockets thought Bari was better than Paolo or Chet...because he was drafted third, so it is pointless talking about it in regards to the Rockets. Also, the big board crew, you mean NBA GMs and teams? The media big boards are fabrications based on what inside knowledge the media has on who teams like and what they want etc etc.
Mr. Allstar: 32% 3pt EFG% lower than Jabari and lower than Jalen Green. Chucking up more shots doesn't make you a better player. I will say Banchero is the better passer.
Don't think there is enough out going money and Tate would have to be a S&T at like 19m per year if my math is right.
It is over yall..... the betting odds just did a wild jump in the Spurs favor (Banchero draft anyone?). Spurs are gonna get him. The betting markets just went Spurs +400 to Spurs -200. That kind of sudden jump is almost always telling. So, get ready to move on to plan B (which is going to be a lot more costly than KD). I'm thinking Markkenan or Murphy.
I fail to see your point, chief. Just because I was high on Bari doesn't mean I ever thought he'd be an elite scorer. I liked Bari more as a lengthy, switchable shooter with a more defined, specific skillset than Paolo's "do everything" offensive game. Paolo always had the greater offensive upside; I don't think any sane person would have suggested otherwise prior to or after the draft. Would I rather have Paolo today than Bari? Of course, but it's a moot point because he wasn't available at 3 anyway. OK? Again, I fail to see how a single person's analysis 3 years into Bari's career is a clear indication that Bari is a bust or somehow has no value or remaining upside as a prospect. Even Vecenie's analysis here states that Bari has made improvements defensively. And, last time I checked, NBA players don't just retire at 22 and call it a day. If Bari makes zero progress in the next 3-4 years and ultimately peaks around this level, you're welcome to come back with an "I told you so," and I'm happy to eat a healthy portion of crow. Feel free to save this post and come back in 2028 since you clearly love to pull the receipts. But maybe next time, actually pull receipts that make your case stronger.
Also, we are acting like Jabari has had NO big games on the NBA level for us to see the 'potential' of a 22 year old player. Here are a few... So here are some ways Jabari could become a better player based on what we see in these games and others. He has a turnaway mid range jumper that he goes to, if he gets more confident and more consistent with it, it's literally a go to move since it cannot be blocked with any regularity. This to me is big, Bari has a GO TO move, unlike Jalen, he just doesn't get a chance to do it much since we hardly use him for anything outside of stretching the floor. Despite what Sam saying, Jabari actually is athletic, he just can't jump very high for whatever reason, but he glides up and down the court and in fact, a big reason we are so good defensively because he rotates quickly and gets up and down the floor quickly. Yes he is agile, Sam is acting like he's 6'4, he's a 6'10 guy, he's very agile for a 6'10 guy. He's literally one of our best rebounders on a team that was one of the best rebounding teams all year. Of course he can hit open threes. On top of that, he's hit pressure shots, as we saw in this playoff series and even a game winner or go ahead shots, he's done that too. I think it's silly to just keep harping on "He can't dribble, he'll never be able to dribble..." okay fine, actually, most great players have significant weaknesses. Jokic is terrible on defense, Giannis can't shoot, Shaq couldn't hit a FT to save his life, you can go down the list. It's more about players knowing their lane and dominating in it. Jabari has potential to do that but its going to take the Rockets getting him more involved in offense and not just posting him up behind the three point line and treating him like a big 3 and D player.
Ahh... My bad, dude. Should have caught the point about 300 fewer minutes played. I don't disagree that Tari's ceiling is higher than Bari's or that he's the vastly more productive and efficient player right now. He's also two years older, though, and has missed a ton of time due to injury already. That paired with the low IQ mistakes are what scare me. But if you told me right now that Tari could stay relatively healthy and make at least a modest improvement on the IQ side in the next few years, I'd rather have Tari, and it wouldn't be close. I think most NBA fans would.
Dillion Brooks #10 to Brooklyn for Cam Johnson and #19.... I would call Boston and immediately offer Jalen Green, Cam Whitmore, #10, 2027 FRP for Jaylen Brown.
