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Rockets going for Kevin Durant

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Snow Villiers, Jun 25, 2024.

  1. dreusche

    dreusche New Member
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    Brooks isn’t a better shooter than Jalen. They shot the same exact percentage on C&S threes this season. Jalen is forced to take more difficult shots because of his role in the offense, while Dillon gets to stand on the wing and take wide open shots (literally - two thirds of his threes this season were wide open).
     
  2. PatBev

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    I want to know the real offer Rockets gave them lol. Im starting to doubt this Jalen & Jabari talk
     
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    He's only forced to take more difficult shots cus he can't generate good shots. Always settles for ridiculous step back fadeaways. Even if they shot the same percentage on C and S threes Brooks would be a better shooter cus he had more volume.
     
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    The rockets would be fools to trade Jabari for KD.
     
  6. coachbadlee

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    But also don't let Bari be the reason you miss out on a game closer. I understand Bari and Tari are big parts of what the team does defensively but so are Amen and Brooks. As good as Tari has been he has also been injury prone. If they had to trade Bari and Tari then they should be able to keep that #10 pick. That leaves the Cam Johnson and #19 pick option open. Also this team with KD will look like a juicy steak to CP3.
     
  7. CRJ713

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    I’m starting to think the offer is build around Dillion Brooks and fillers + picks.

    Brooks
    Jock
    Holiday
    Tate
    #10 and 2029 FRPs
     
  8. j@amc

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    This is a minor point, but I'll try and explain what I'm thinking.

    Durant is SF, one of the best ever. Offensively, he can get his shot over almost everyone--and effortlessly. What you should put around him are guys with quickness, especially at the 2-guard. Brooks is a good positional defender who sometimes takes unnecessary risks and roughs up opponents when it isn't necessary. That physicality helps when he's playing bigger guys.

    Yes, the Rockets make a lot of switches. But I hate Brooks chasing a PG because he can't challenge the shot, and he's a step slow. Against half the 2-guards in the NBA (starters or not), they have a step on him.

    If you have Amen chasing a 2-guard and Durant on the SF, are we letting Brooks match up on the PF spot? Are Bari and Tari on the bench? It's all mismatched because you have one too many SFs on the court.

    Some of this might be partially solved in FVV wasn't on the roster (and if he's NOT traded, we should open a chat room just for Rocket therapy sessions about all that). But the bigger problem I'm seeing is if you retain Brooks, you have three SFs in the rotation (Brooks, Amen, and Durant) and two lengthy PFs who don't have a lot of girth for when we play bigger teams (Bari and Tari).

    It would be nice to have a true PF who can bang and a 2-guard who can handle the ball, be disruptive, defend, make shots, etc.
     
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    Bari is a stiff non athletic tall guy who is supposed to be a good shooter. He gets the same looks at the rim as Lou Dort or Brooks, yet he doesn't shoot the ball as well. What's the point?
     
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    I’m telling yall do not trade Jalen for KD. Let Reed, Green, Jabari, and Cam build value and package them together next year for a disgruntled star if Reed can’t cut it at point and Jalen doesn’t redeem himself

    The offer should be Fred or Dillon for KD
     
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    They have to find a 3rd and maybe 4th team. Jalen with Beal and newly extended Booker makes no sense for that team. It sounds like the Suns have made calls to see what Jalen's value would be around the league, and maybe its not enough for them. San Antonio is playing this how the Rockets should be, they have gone silent. I would give them 48 hours to decide, and then move on to explore other SG upgrades and moving on from JG and keep everyone else.
     
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    No one with a sane mind on earth would ever say DBrooks is better than JG - JG is better in every comparison stat this past season outside of 3pt % on more diffcult attempts and barely less FG% 42.3 to 42.9 - and they both shot 40% on catch and shoot 3s

    https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/dillon-brooks-jalen-green

    And position less basketball doesn’t work in halfcourt when you have no spacing .. OKC doesn’t play positionless basketball and neither does Indy …you can’t just say okay DBrooks is our SG and now KD is our only shot creator vs it only being JG

    Amen
    JG
    KD
    Bari
    Alpi

    is what we all better be praying for as starting lineup next year
     
  13. BallSoHarden

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    I mentioned this exact scenario on here yesterday, and I feel the Spurs are likely just waiting to see what mistakes other franchises make at this point to get a super star on their timeline. The Rockets really should do the same. If you look at the impact that Paul George trades had across the league and the winners and losers from that, there is a lot to learn. This Ant scenario becomes much more likely if the T-Wolves make this trade.
     
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    I don't see Amen as a 3 at all with his lack of shooting.

    2s and 3s are typically very similar these days.

    I just haven't seen this step slower you're talking about with Brooks.
     
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    Jalen CHOOSES to take more difficult shots.
     
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    Rockets have said from the get go they weren’t trading JG (in the Giannis trade rumors) now folks believe they would trade him for KD

    KD is a clear upgrade at SF and we have 4 on our current roster

    DB
    Tari
    Cam
    Amen

    suns clearly lack SF and Beal has a no trade clause and Booker is tired of playing PG …common sense isn’t so common

    FVV and Cam or DB Cam Jock + picks … add a sign and trade of Tate cause Jeff Green said he wants to finish career with Houston and I can see Stone honoring that
     
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    Why are you only looking at catch and shoot 3s? Is it because the others 3s invalidate your point?

    I don't want Jalen to be a shot creator. I want Jalen to be a shot maker.
     
  18. gfab-babyboi

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    go back and watch the playoffs - Butler drove past DB easily.. every since he got hurt last year his lateral quickness has gone and he’s a awful defensive / offensive rebounder - he doesn’t even attempt to blockout
     
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    sir I listed both regular 3 % and catch and shoot 3s … The difference in % was JG has to take more 3s he creates himself vs DB attempts are 98% catch and shoot
     
  20. PeterKingX

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    But Jalen is also horrible at open shots.
     
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