Ya, teams picking top 5 are almost always the worst teams so they play the kids even if they suck (and they all suck).
He's not awful. He's playing better than Reed and I don't hear you saying Reed is awful. Regardless of how old he is, he's still a rookie. Playing NBA talent at NBA speed can only happen playing NBA minutes. Being older doesn't change that he's a rookie. Sure, he gets a bump being older but he's also 300lbs and 7'4". He's physically superior than Reed and has an NBA ready body. So to respond, yes he's older, more experienced, AND he has an NBA ready body AND he's getting starters minutes. The answer is ALL OF THE ABOVE. Regardless, not sure why you expect him to come out of the block playing at all-star level. btw, I just checked Sengun's stats last season, he didn't record his second block until game #8. By all measures, his defense was massively improved year-over-year. I think you need to check your expectations of Edey. Anyway, it seems you have a prescribed narrative that Edey is "awful" and have written him off after 1 week. I'm assuming you wrote him off long before he ever stepped on a court so I doubt there is much I can say to convince you. If that's the case, just admit that you are a hater and we can move on.
Ya i think he has no chance to ever be an allstar or anything close to that. He is playing under 18 mpg, hardly starter minutes and memphis is -34 in his 89 minutes which is beyond horrible. Reed has done nothing so i have no opinion so far, but if he ends up worse than edey than he’s a bust and bye bye. Sure they are both rookies but being multiple years older is a massive advantage
Well, a lot of what it says is that the other teams drafting in the top 5 suck and/or have sh*tty bench depth compared to the Rockets
Edey was a great college player. I enjoyed watching him when his games were on TV. But I like the front court rotation the Rockets have. Obviously it can be better, but you start getting into bonafide elite front court players that are fairly indisputably better. And I don’t think Edey would be eating into the Rockets front court minutes this season.
In his last game, Edey was +5. It's premature to call Edey a bust. But I'm not really sure what is your point. Are you are putting an asterisk on Edey ROY votes because he is older? Ok, but that's not how ROY voting works. Following your logic, Homgren should have beaten out Wemby last season in ROY because Chet had the advantage due to age and experience.
I didn’t call him a bust, i said that so far he has sucked. ROY votes are irrelevant, i don’t care about that, it means nothing. The only thing that matters is who is better in the long run, when the rockets are actually trying to be good in 2, 3, 4 years.
Just wondering but is this thread in the GARM because it has Rockets in the title? Otherwise not sure why it's here. Unless we want to includes threads like "Best Tacos in Houston to eat before a Rockets game!" or "Houston line-up sucks because it's not the Boston starting five!"
Awful??? He’s played 11 games in his NBA career (after winning back to back college player of the years) and in those first 11 games Edey has 6 of 10 points or greater and 6 of 7 rebounds or greater and has a positive overall +/- for the season. Just like college, he’s not going to come in day one and average Yao Ming numbers (who is my comparison player to Edey).
Memphis, by the way, has a net rating of -16 with Edey on the court, and +8 with him off the court. That's a pretty wild swing. He also destroys their defense, their drtg is 126 with him and 109 without him. Not sure he's the defensive presence people think he is. What do you think Atlantas record would be if they didn't give Risacher minutes? That guy is off the charts bad on like every metric. He's putting up numbers I've never even seen, I didn't even know they go that low. The net rating is -15 with him on the court and +3 with him off the court. Washington, similarly, is -14 with Sarr on, and +4 with him off. So I'm not sure what you think it says about Shepperd not getting minutes. To me, it says that we are trying to win games, because these guys are killing their teams.
Someone needs to start a threads in the GARM about every player they wanted to draft. Example: "Evan Mobley would have been the Rockets Franchise Player had we drafted him"
I get your point, but I do think it's fine to have a discussion about "what if we picked this other guy instead of the guy we picked" when we have high draft picks. We had Mobley threads right after we picked Jalen, and I thought those were appropriate too. It's borderline related, but I think it's related enough.
Krosfyah….great response and couldn’t have said it better. Astrosrules was likely one of those who said Edey was a second round talent during the draft. Memphis has been wisely bringing Edey on slowly playing him usually less than 20 minutes a game. Very few rookies come in and average 25-15 right out of the gate. I know time is limited as Edey only has 15 more years of NBA life due to his elderly age of 22. Wembly is definitely getting better with time and experience and while I love Sheppard as a shooter, no matter how quickly Edey acclimates to the NBA he would better serve to help neutralize what is going to be a real problem for us in the upcoming future. VW is already beginning to get the upper hand on our star Sengun as he struggled to get 11 points and got blocked several times in one of their last meetings. Would have been nice to have a 7’4” 300 pounder help to allow Sengun to play off of the 7’6” guy. Just common sense when we already have FVV, Green, Whitmore, Holiday, and Thompson fighting for guard minutes and have a defensive minded coach who could’ve turned Edey into even a better defender. You can get Steve Kerr guys like Reed in every NBA draft, but it’s once in a decade you can get 7’4, 300 pound back to back player of the year guys like Edey.
Few corrections: 1. Edey has played 6 games not 11, nobody has played 11 games 2. Memphis offense is 6 pts/100 worse when he is on the court 3. Memphis defense is 19 pts/100 worse when he is on the court 4. Memphis is -34 when he is on the court this season
Your stats are old. He's now played 7 games. Last two games: 10/31: +5 11/2: +15 Why you spend so much energy trying to throw shade on a rookie?
You provided a 4-point bulleted list with stats that you looked up. That's energy. lol. For your therapy for the day. Repeat after me: "As of now, Edey is playing better than Reed and, if this keeps up, he'll get more ROY votes than Reed." Say it with me. You can do it. (I hope I'm wrong, but as of now, I'm not.)
