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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by HtownsRockyTop, Feb 2, 2012.

  1. gmoney411

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    Barkley, Drexler, Pippen, T-Mac all came here willingly. Miami has been in the league for a long time and nobody was running to play there before they had Wade. We are a good enough city that players will gladly come here if we have talent for them to play with.

    I'm sorry but that trade sucks for us. Lowry/Lee/Dalembert isn't much greater if at all than Teague/Johnson/Horford. We would basically be making ourselves into a good but not great team like the Hawks are.
     
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  3. kjayp

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    Heaven forbid pople have hopes and dreams that are out of reach...

    Ever occur to anyone (OP included) that we cant get a superstar because of the constant and overwhelming vibe of pessimism that exists...?

    I no longer live in Houston, family moved when I was a teen, but I was there for Luv Ya Blue and I was there for the first Rockets championship - the city rocked in support of the home team!

    Nowadays... not so much.... attendence sucks and people claim "it's the economy"... but look at this board - a board devoted to The Houston Rockets! For every positive or optimistic thing written, there's at least a dozen bout how "scola sucks" or "Kmart sucks" or "Les sucks" or "treadmill of mediocrity" or "never gonna get a superstar" or "cant win a championship, so lets tank" or dozens of other bs crybabying...

    You want a superstar? Give em reason to come to Houston. Looking at how this board treats its hometown athletes - I wouldnt.

    You reap what you sow, people...
     
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    I think you won't realize how valuable kmart is until he is gone. Sure, we did well without him... for 2GAMES against BAD teams.
     
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    please explain to me other then scoring what kevin martin offers the team. im going strictly of statistical facts this year. im not saying the guy sucks im saying other then scoring he doesnt provide anything for this team. Hes not a guy that demands double teams to free up another shooter. he doesnt play defense he never follows his shot. So please tell me why our team would be any worse with out him then we are with him.
     
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    get it through your thick KMARTS A STAR head. Hes not an all star and NEVER will be. Defenition of a star is someone who shows up at the end of games to close it out, a person who leads the team, a person who can doesnt settle for low percentage shots from the outside, a person who makes other players around them BETTER. its time to part ways with kevin martin while he still has some value or else we are going to have another tracy mcgrady on our hands.
     
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    Another McGrady on our hands? WTH is that suppose to mean? :confused:
     
  8. gmoney411

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    Being really good on the offensive end makes you a valuable player. KMart is a top 10 scorer in this league. Yes he is not a superstar and a terrible defender but that doesn't mean he doesn't have value and wouldn't be a great piece on a championship team. Using your logic Ben Wallace in his prime is not worth having because he is worthless on the offensive end.
     
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    Yep. Josh smith will be there to close it out. Err. I mean close the door for any chance of a come back late in the game. You take scoring for granted. Do you honestly think we would score enough points to win with lowry and lee being the only ones capable of scoring from outside 15 feet? We would be even more of a perimiter shooting team than we are now.
     
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    Did you even watch tmac? Is he a guy who never showed up in the 4th? Is 13 in 33 never showing up in the 4th. He got injured and his prime was shortened. I don't see kmart with back spasms and having to get microfracture surgery. I don't understand the comparison
     
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    how relevant has detroit been with ben wallace in the starting lineup. Look people im not saying kevin martin isnt a big piece to this team. Im simply saying that its time to start splashing the water so to speak. Making some changes to the team. we need to shake things up cause obviously where we have been the last few seasons isnt bad and at the same time isnt good enough. And when i say another t mac situation. I dont want to wait for kevins stats to start dropping so far which lets be honest they already are to the point where we cant use him to land a good free agent. Kevin Mchale is not adelman. THis isnt going to be a offensive orriented team, mchale is all about defense so why not start with using a player like kevin martin to land us a better defensive piece to the puzzle.
     
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    You mean you don't want to wait until Kmart breaks down and injures himself and has to get surgeries? Can't control injuries. If we get josh smith, he comes here, and gets injured, that's another tmac situation isn't it?
     
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    i also dont see us with but one post season appearance with kevin, i also dont see kevin martin showing up in the fourth to close games. I also dont see kevin playing defense. All things similar to t mac. other then the injuries he hasnt made this team better and he hasnt made it worse. T MAC ALL OVER AGAIN. PERIOD
     
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    Wow. Just wow. With tmac, we were contenders every year. We were 4th/5th seed almost all the time. It was the injuries with Yao and tmac every year that killed us. Did you see the lineup tmac played with outside of yao? The supporting cast now is much different. These two situations are much different
     
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    Comparing these two as if they are the same is absurd.
     
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    If we keep trying to land big scorers then NINTH place and middle of the pack is all this team is ever going to amount to. No post game equals low percentage shots. NO defense equals having to put up more points a game to outscore opponents which with our offense primarily based on jump shots from outside the paint. if we shoot bad we lose. which is why we continue to go on cold streaks throughout the game cause we settle for outside shots. Defense will and always will be the key factor in winning championships.
     
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    well thats basically what you are saying when you say that this team cant survive without kevin martin and that we will be much worse without him, cause all i saw with tracy went down in the playoffs was us beating a good blazers team as well as taking the lakers to seven games. so saying this team cant survive with out someone like k mart when we did without yao and tracy is just ABSURD!
     
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    They won a title with him in the starting lineup.

    Agreed. I'd like to move him before the trade deadline while he still has pretty good value. I'd just prefer to either get a superstar or someone really young plus picks.
     
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    Kevin Martin isnt the problem. I'd have to put him in the top 10 for SGs - for reality not 'potential'... he's not Kobe, but c'mon, the guy is a solid player. His defense isnt great granted, but he's a hlluva a scorer... Instead of shreddin the guy, why not focus on our areas that do need improvement (PF and SF)....
     
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    Add Dally and ppat to that and the magic might start talking
     

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