or Delegitimize further (as if that is needed somehow) the Republicans on the S. Ct. Never forget 2/3 of self identified Repubs still believe the election was rigged against Dear Leader. Interesting that Cruz a S.Ct law clerk will all the Harvard/Yale law degree w. I believe the usual clerking for one of the reactionary GOP S.Ct. judges, of course, and who has been considered worthy of an appointment is arguing the case. Cruz is ********ing and so openly positioning himself for another run for president. It will be so fun to watch him lose badly again.
There is no case, Eddie Munster is just grandstanding, posturing for a leadership role and a 2024 Presidential bid. As I read it, emergency decrees do not have oral arguments. (Lawrence Tribe)
That's a great point. Getting Trumps frivolous lawsuits in front of THIS SCOTUS puts in jeopardy many many norms that they could rule on to open the door for future Republicans to take advantage of just like Bush V Gore did. SCOTUS would rule in favor of Biden of course, but in the process in the majority argument, many of the Justices will make a point to state many of the things that Trump did do that are considered anti-Democratic (like say calling State Officials and bullying them to overturn the election) are perfectly fine under the law if you do it in a certain way. There's lot of damage like that because of Bush V Gore & there will be 10X more if SCOTUS gets the Trump V Biden case regardless of the overall outcome. The less consequential litigation that can get in front of this SCOTUS the better.
Supreme Court justices, especially the ones that are considered to be very conservative, are among the most respect people in Washington within Republican circles. Their silence on this is clearly not helpful. An official legal opinion from them that validates the election would be helpful. This seems incredibly obvious to me, so I don’t get the push back.
I'd like to apologize to the gay community for calling Cruz a ********er like it is a derisive term. Old habits, it was just an easy 'oral' joke by a dude that grew up in the 60's and watched every episode of Deadwood. I'm quite sure gay people do not want to be associated with Cruz in any way. Sorry to perpetuate an outdated unenlightened trope.
The norms you are talking about are already busted by Trump. You think those norms will just restore themselves, while the Supreme Court remains silent on the whole affair?
and @durvasa you actually think Trump and his cult will accept the decision of the USSC? its not gonna make a difference its either holding on to power or civil war for them
Many cultists will not be convinced. What Trump himself believes, if he believes anything, is irrelevant. A Supreme Court ruling that affirms the election results will help to disempower his cult and its influence. Silence from the SC, and especially resistance from Democrats in having the SC officially give an opinion on the legal arguments being made, will have the opposite effect.
The once very conservative and once highly supported by the Trump base for GA's Gov, SoS, Trump's own court appointees, and so on are real case evidences that said it doesn't matter how conservative and how much respect there were from the base. Reason: Strong evidence of cult-like behavior. The other view to consider is a SC rejecting to hear the case is effectively the same as ruling against it. If you are looking for legitimacy, it's basically the same either way. Also consider that the PA case doesn't change the election result. Biden still wins without PA. It's a moot point. A SC case doesn't validate anything as regard to the US presidency. But it surely will get sucked into politics (probably will either way).
The people will just turn on the judges - we've already seen that with John Roberts when he didn't rule in their favor. Even Gorsuch, who Trump appointed. They don't care about any kind of reasoning. The best thing the USSC could do is decline to even hear the cases, but instead of providing no accompanying reason, say "this is stupid and an acceptable abuse of the legal system".
My point was we don't need those norm's that are busted put into the judicial record for legal precedent as defined by the Supreme Court. Our country would be better off if our Constitutional Law was reaffirmed by the courts to establish precedent when there is a much less partisan court hellbent on right wing power grabs & religious activism. Bush V Gore Citizens United Exxon V Baker Reversal of Voting Rights Act in 2013 These are all HUGE consequential decisions that have re-made our government in many ways in favor of right wing minority rule & corporate big money takeover. Getting a decision on Republican led Electioneering in front of THIS Supreme Court which is more partisan that the one that ruled on the above is a BAD idea. These frivolous lawsuits need to die at State Court, and the lawyers bringing them up for Trump should be disbarred by the State Bar Associations. Elevating them to the Supreme Court might seems like a good idea to deliver a decisive blow, but in reality you are offering this highly partisan activist court the chance to say that ALOT of the things Trump has done as actually legal even if they ultimately rule that Biden is the Constitutionally elected President.
You don't want to legitimize their claims. Tossed in the court they are brought in makes them look as foolish as they are.,
so they still won't be convinced. basically nothing will convince them or are you saying all of the courts around america aren't legit? and what resistance? meaning legal resistance? like arguing in the state courts? howbout let law and order take its course?
So f***'em, let the 40% rant and rave in their echo chamber, the rest of us are going to 'Move On", there's work that needs to be done. They are going to b**** about every thing anyway. Hopefully to the point that the 10% of them that are not insane get tired of it. We need 3 reasonable GOP Senators to work with.
It's a fundraising mechanism/grift as will his "announced" 2024 be too. I don't think he actually will run again in the end because he cannot stand the thought of losing again, and will likely be more likely to lose next time. I think he isn't thinking beyond getting through 2021 which will be a hell year for him financially. He is looking at the State of NY bringing charges that will take down the Trump org. and severely bankrupt him further. He's in debt by over half a billion dollars with a business that has dropped off a cliff, and will drop off even further. The Super Pac's and Campaign Fund is his best source of revenue at this point to float his lifestyle, and pay down debt. If the State of NY decides to close down the Trump Org because of a slew of charges brought on by fraud, Trump is in alot of trouble because he needed that shell company as a mechanism for doing deals with foreign dictators, and shady oligarchs around the world which is his main source of income over the next few years. He's going to need Saudi, Chinese, and Russian money to float his finances, and bail him out of debt. So the guy could be screwed, and his campaign & his super pac might be the only thing he'll have for "Lifesfyle" expenses.
