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Rockets Declining Parsons Contract?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by mikol13, Jun 3, 2014.

  1. steddinotayto

    steddinotayto Member

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    It might come down to that but, in the end, the Rockets will end up losing an asset (draft pick or DMo) just to move Lin.
     
  2. Nook

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    First I don't think it is a "pupu platter".... it turns into 3 #1's and getting rid of Raymond Felton... that is not bad at all.

    Chicago?

    Several points on Chicago. First, in order for them to get Anthony, they have to amnesty Boozer, move Dunleavy and Gibson, not bring over Mrotic and not use the Charlotte pick.

    Now, they CAN offer draft picks, Mrotic, Gibson and Dunleavy for Melo. Two points on that, Gibson is not expiring, so that messes up their 2015 hopes. Second, I do not think that Chicago is willing to move all the pieces needed. You are asking the owner of the Bulls to pay Boozer for not playing, lose bringing over Mrotic, lose a starter in Gibson and draft picks...... I don't think that the Bulls owner and front office will do that. Further, Butler is going to be a FA and wants 12-13 million a year. I cannot see Reinsdorf paying Anthony and then have to pay Butler a fortune one year later. That doesn't even get into the possibility that Anthony may not want to play on a team where the best player (Rose) is a complete question mark.

    Something else to consider.... I live in Chicago and the beat writer said the Bulls will offer LESS than the max to Anthony (3-5 million a year less) and thinks that Anthony is a long shot.
     
  3. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    I giggled, and for all the extrapolating in this thread, you could be closer to the truth.

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  4. dobro1229

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    Well Mr. Cuban you should. Because your little mind game you've been playing with Dirk, the media, and the Dallas fanbase that somehow Dirk is going to sign for dirt cheap this Summer is about to blow up in your face when someone like Morey throws a three year max-like deal at Dirk & he's put in a awkward position.

    There is no amount of loyalty in this world worth giving up as much salary as Cuban wants Dirk to give up the next 3 years. Its sad that he's been trying to play his long time superstar like that this past year, and undermine his value.
     
  5. Fighton

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    someone with contractual law knowledge might know this, but i don't think he's allowed to disclose what the offer amount is to the rockets without coming back to them with the signed offer sheet, correct? if he's allowed, as a RFA, to see the offer numbers, not sign it and go back to morey with it, then what's the point of any team making a good faith offer to begin with?

    doesn't he first have to sign a qualifying offer from the rockets (and that would his offer from the rockets if no one else offers him anything), then come back to the rockets with another signed offer sheet to match? If he doesn't come back with a signed offer sheet, then he's stuck with the qualifying offer, correct? if he doesn't come back with an offer sheet, are the rockets allowed to void the qualifying offer and write him a new, long term one?

    it may simply come down to - rockets sign max FA, then waits for chandler's offer sheet and decides to 1) match and go over cap which i think they will since they'll be over cap anyway, or 2) don't match and let him walk. I don't think signing him to a new offer that's higher then qualifying but lower then another offer sheet is an option. but i could be totally wrong on this.
     
  6. DREAM ON!

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    All of those "assets" will likely be gone in a chase for 3 superstars. If all of this actually goes down and Houston gets a third star, they will be going after minimum/hungry players to fill the holes.
     
  7. Nook

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    No way in hell Cuban lets Dirk leave the Mavericks.... especially for Houston.
     
  8. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Cuban let Dirk waste 3 of his prime years waiting for another superstar.
     
  9. dobro1229

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    He shouldn't, but he also shouldn't be allowed to get a freebie for Dirks final years. Someone like Morey needs to make sure he pays market value if only for competitive reasons. As long as he's healthy, he should be getting paid the max. He's still that productive.
     
  10. Nook

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    It doesn't matter if it is "allowed".... players and agents and teams talk all the time, especially when the player is as close to the organization as Parsons. I have no doubt that Morey will "learn" things ... especially with Parsons wanting to remain a Rocket.
     
  11. Nook

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    I agree with you..... and we all know that Morey doesn't give a damn either.... he will be standing at Dirk's front door with a stein of German beer trying to convince Dirk to sign..... Morey has no shame... like that guy not invited to parties but just shows up.
     
  12. aelliott

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    It wasn't talk, they did it in 2010. Remember the plan to get Lebron + another max player? They cleared all of the cap space for the summer of Lebron and even gave the Rockets picks to take Jarred Jeffries off of their books.

    They ended up signing Amare for max money and then struck out on both Lebron and Wade. In fact the plan was to sign two max guys in 2010 and then add Carmelo in 2011. Didn't quite work out that way but that was the plan.
     
  13. knickstorm

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    Makes sense, why commit when you don't have to yet? He'll e a restricted FA, so go out test the market and if you want him bad enough, you still have the last say at the end of the day.
     
  14. Rockets_12

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    Say we get a third star AND keep Parsons, do we lose our MLE and Bi Annual?
     
  15. ginia1110

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    Dude you misunderstood me. I didn't even think for a second Lebron's coming here. Not to mention, would he even dare do another Cleveland 2.0 and run away again, and after all what D-wade had to give up and did for them to just mesh...? hahaha so no!

    That's why I said since its not gonna happen in another billion years or so, at least we should get somebody who's still a great player. Not sure about how Melo's chemistry's with our players gonna be but if we can get him why the heck not?
     
  16. Joe Joe

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    Depends on mechanism to acquire third star. If Rockets use cap space, they won't have those exceptions. If it is done by a trade, Rockets most likely get to keep the exceptions depending on trade specifics.
     
  17. crash5179

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    It's not a mind game. Dirk loves Dallas and has no intention of leaving for any destination. I absolutely believe Dirk will take a Tim Duncan type of salary in order to stay in Dallas and give the Mavs enough cap room to get a high priced free agent.
     
  18. aelliott

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    No I believe that can make negotiations public if they like. NY knew of the offer that we'd agreed to with Lin and they told Lin's agent that they planned to match. Based on that the Rockets modified the offer and used the poison pill structure to prevent NY from matching.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-b...s-dolan-betrayed-deceived-161820611--nba.html

    Parsons can negotiate any deal he wants with the Rockets. He doesn't have to have an offer from another team. All the qualifying offer does is to allow the Rockets to retain right of first refusal.
     
  19. Rashmon

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    Not sure why some are surprised. This is win-win move for Parsons and Rockets.
     
  20. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    He let Finley go to the Spurs. Nash to the Suns. Meh.
     
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