I don't understand why you would say this. Carlisle and Dumars had a great relationship. The owner hated him because he wasn't as polilte as he couldve been. The owner cared more about etiquette and niceties than he did about winning. Also, Carlisle denied a lot of the accusations against him. Since he was fired, Carlisle has nothing but good things to say about Dumars, the organization and the players. Contrast that with Larry Brown's press conference where he took numerous jabs at Allen Iverson. Classy move ex post facto. This is good news if it's true.
Agreed...but right now, it is an injustice to Ben Wallace to even mention his name in the same sentence as Eddie Griffin. I didn't know his players liked him that much. I thought I read something about him not getting along with one of his guys off the court, and it cought up to him (Rip Hamilton or Wallace maybe?).
Diplomatic. I dont know enough about Carlisle to warrant him being a good fit for our team. I do know however, that he was a difficult guy to dealing with upper management.
GATER-Money aside, I'd go with Carlisle over JVG very easily. You don't think Carlisle is the best out there? I'm looking at his roster, and wondering how the heck the guy won 50 games, let alone take that team to the EC Finals. Who knows what could've happened if Billups has 2 ankles instead of 1. Compare the talent level of Detroit to any other winning team, and I'm not sure how Detroit comes out on top. Carlisle was the offensive guy for the Pacers team that went to the Finals. That's what separates them, IMO. I worry about JVG being all defense, no offense. Carlisle has an offensive mind but no offensive talent in Detroit. The centerpiece of the team averaged less than 8 ppg. How he got that production out of Chauncey Billups that no one else could is impressive. He went about creating an absolute defensive juggernaut. Keep in mind, he did it while maintaining 2 mostly offense, little defense players in the backcourt. Sound familiar?
1. A few players didnt like him. Others did. No matter because they respected him enough to win more games than they had a right to. Joe Dumars loved him. The owner hated him. 2. He worked with Rick Smits, Sabonis and Ben Wallace. 3. He worked with Mark Jackson who was a very solid point guard.
First of all.....THERE'S GONNA BE A THUNDERSTORM. And......I'm with RIET all the way! Rick Carlisle can always change! People can change! Unless he is freakishly arrogant and cocky and stubborn! I don't think he is. He seems nice and professional! There were rumors that he and Ben Wallace weren't too happy.....and he was one outrageous man... But Detroit players like Billups loved him and said he was great during the games! He is the youngest out of ALL OF THEM. He is a genius. He is very good at offense.....AND DEFENSE. He is a disciplinarian.WHICH IS WHAT WE NEED! Good job whoever decided to interview him! Not confirmed though.
MB (and NIKE) - I've been in a negative funk because I genuinely believe that Rox went cheap by not counter offering for LB. Hence my tongue-in-cheek comment about Carlisle's salary. That said, I too would appreciate some creativity by the Rox mgmt. And I'm definitely not anti-Carlisle...now if he could just bring Kevin O'Neill with him.
Carlisle would be a GREAT choice. You don't think he has a point to prove now? With the talent on this team he could realy stick it to Detroit/Brown. We've only heard one side of the story about his dismissal. He has pretty much kept quiet. If he was such an ass, you would have thought he'd be taking shots back. Contrast that to the way Brown left...... Get him.
I think in the long run either Carlisle or Dunleavy would have been a better choice than picking up Brown. Brown was, as it seems, in it for the money. He gave up on the hottest comodity, Houston, and went for a team willing to pay him the big bucks. Carlisle bring the best out of his players, even if it means hurting a few feelings. (Something Rudy wasn't willing to do.) Dunleavy just wants to coach. He is the most excited about the possiblility of coaching the Rockets, and he's not a bad coach to boot. I guess I would rather have Carlisle, but Dunleavy would do as well.
The difference between him and JVG is the fact that all of his players like him. JVG just isn't possible not to like. I don't think people care about him working with Ben Wallace... I think Carlisle is verrrry overrated for his job in Indiana. That team had so much talent, it's amazing they only made the finals once. JVG did more with less in NY than Carlisle did in Indy. Carlisle is a terrible X and O guy IMO. Look at that great play he drew up at the end of Game 2 against the Nets. He gave it to a player 26 feet out defended by one of the best perimeter defenders in the game, who also had a height advantage on the player he gave it to, AND the guy had a terribly sore ankle, it was a miracle he even played that long in the game. Look at the play JVG drew up for Allan Houston in Game 5 1999....to say Carlisle's a better X and O coach on the court is just ignorant, he hasn't shown any specific indicators of it.
People, People.... There is still one proven winner that the Rockets should consider! He transcends all sports.
This is from before the season . This is not the gospel but it is their opinions, for whatever it's worth. Thursday, September 19 Updated: September 23, 3:10 PM ET The best and worst of NBA's head coaches -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By Frank Hughes Special to ESPN.com We have the list of the league's 29 coaches ranked in order from best to worst based on a survey of ESPN.com NBA experts. Now, we go to my best and worst on a variety of other topics. And even before we get there, let me apologize ahead of time if some of the same characters -- I mean coaches -- show up in multiple listings. But like in every other walk of life, there are some guys who stand out, and there are some guys who, well, put you to sleep. Houston's Rudy Tomjanovich is a coach you'd want to hang with. BEST GUY: Rudy Tomjanovich. And being in sports, by that we mean which one of these 29 would you like to go out and have a beer with. While I'm sure it would be fascinating to hear Phil Jackson drone on about the inner implications of Zen Buddism vs. neo-Nazi fascism, the coach whom you'd really like to hang with is Houston's Tomjanovich. Well, at least when he was drinking and smoking. Even now, though, he is a great guy, a regular Joe who, despite his success, seems to have time for everyone. We give a close runner-up to Jerry Sloan -- but, of course, he too has conquered his vices. When did the NBA become the feel-good league? We'll give second runners-up to Paul Silas and Frank Johnson, both good guys. WORST GUY: Gregg Popovich. The one thing I've learned in covering this league is that most coaches, once you get them out of their pressure-packed surroundings and into a more sedate environment, are actually good guys. They are able to throw aside the boring clichés and talk like normal human beings. But that does not seem to be the case for Popovich. Perhaps it is his military background. Whatever the case, Pop is short and acerbic and doesn't really care about offending people. At least he is winning, because to have those characteristics without success is more than we can stand. BEST SIDELINE DEMEANOR: Jerry Sloan. Here is our first repeat. The Utah coach rants and raves up and down the sidelines, nearly throwing punches because he gets so angry. And that is how he acts with his own players. It's worth the price of admission just to sit behind the Jazz bench and watch Sloan work. Don't bring the children, though, because they likely will learn words they have not heard before. The best interactions are with Sloan and center Greg Ostertag. We'll describe it like this: Sloan worked hard as a player, Ostertag does not and Sloan does not appreciate it. You can picture the rest. WORST SIDELINE DEMEANOR: George Karl. Somewhere in his multi-faceted personality, Karl has an issue with power. Or, perhaps it is not an issue, he just wants to mess with people, and let them know he has it. One of his favorite tricks -- and I'm convinced this is intentional -- is that during a game, he will sit on the scorer's table right in front of people because he knows the coaching sideline is sacred ground and nothing can be said to him during the game. He does it to everybody -- reporters, broadcasters and some poor schlub who has paid $1,200 for the ticket -- unless they are in Milwaukee, where the ticket is $80. Next time you watch a Bucks game -- assuming George is still the coach -- watch him plop down in front of a person and then watch as you see that person's head ducking around to see the game. ...while George Karl needs a personal shopper. Heat coach Pat Riley still looks as slick as ever... BEST QUOTE: Nate McMillan and Byron Scott. This is a difficult category, because there really are sub-categories. You've got guys like Karl, who will say anything -- including that he thinks money and greed are the reason the U.S. lost in the World Championships, despite the fact that he is the highest-paid coach in the league at $7 million a year and that he spent his entire final season in Seattle griping about his contract. That's why George usually makes the all-interview team. Then you've got guys who are no longer sugar-coating their quotes. They are done protecting players, they are done making people read between the lines, they are telling it like it is. And so that award has to go to Seattle's McMillan and New Jersey's Scott. You ask them a question, they answer it. Honestly. What more can you ask for? WORST QUOTE: Rick Adelman and Lenny Wilkens. Now we don't mean to suggest that some of these fellas are unimaginative, so instead we'll just say they have run out of things to say. The worst offenders are Sacramento's Adelman and Toronto's Wilkens. Have you ever had a salt-free, sand-covered cracker chased by a glass of plaster? We're talking dry. BEST Xs and Os: Rick Carlisle. All I can point to is this: When he was on their sideline as an assistant, the Indiana Pacers went to the NBA Finals. Now that he is on Detroit's sideline, the Pistons went from moribund to a playoff team. Rick Carlisle might not be the best communicator, but he knows how to draw up a play. And get a basket out of it. We have to give a special nod here to Nelson, simply because he is not afraid to experiment. Nobody ever knows what team he is going to throw out on the floor. WORST Xs and Os: Lon Kruger. One of the worst play-callers I ever saw was Chris Ford, who basically told his best player to take on the opponent one-on-five and see if he could score. But since Ford has gone the way of the Model T, we have to give this dubious distinction to Atlanta's Kruger. In one game last season, I saw him call about 15 consecutive post-ups for Shareef Abdur-Rahim, even though Abdur-Rahim was getting double-teamed every time and clearly could not pass out of the double. Maybe Lon was trying to make a point to Shareef, but he also made one with me. MOST UNDERRATED COACH: Bill Cartwright. I have to admit, when Crumbs Krause hired him, I thought there was no way he was going to be good. But Cartwright has put his stamp on the Chicago Bulls and has actually made them modestly successful in his short stint. He has given them attitude, and for a team that lacks talent that is exactly what it needed. MOST OVERRATED COACH: Isiah Thomas. Even ranked 23rd, Thomas might be given too much respect. Word out of Indy is he does not work hard, he does not communicate with his players and he does not seem to care a great deal about much other than the substantial paycheck he is cashing. He better take this group of young talent somewhere this season or he is gonzo.
Nice comeback! 1. Rick Carlisle 2. Jeff Van Gundy I'll be "satisfied" with either one. I believe with either one...we can succeed and make the playoffs next season. BUT PLEASE NOT MIKE DUNLEAVY.
The Pacers also had the most talent they did in the 90s (technically the 00s, but you be the judge) that year....you've gotta be kidding me. Jackson, Miller, Croshere UNCONSCIOUS, Davis, Rose and Smits better get you to the Finals. Croshere coming out of nowhere had more to do with it than Carlisle's coaching....without Croshere that series the Pacers were done. I find it funny that they think Carlisle is a great X and O guy because his offense is just absolutely terrible (if he's such an offensive "genius" shouldn't he be able to get the most out of them?), and he has the best interiorrrrr (oops) defender in the league. How damn hard is that?
Im for Carlisle being our next years coach i bet he would take us to the finals next year. GO LES HIRE HIM BEFORE SOME ONE ELSE DOES.
Calls are all in a day's work By Dan Patrick May 8, 2002 The ballots for the NBA awards are due on tax day. As a 10-year voter in this process, I've been making lists and looking things up. I take it seriously. The process gives me a framework from which I can assess teams and players as the season winds down. It lends perspective to an 82-game schedule and prepares me for the playoffs. Pistons coach Rick Carlisle But awards have fleeting value, except for the guy who displays the hardware or has an incentive clause in his contract to make the All-Defensive team. Awards are nice but they don't really drive anything of lasting import. Rings do that. I was a bit surprised, therefore, when Rick Carlisle, coach of the Central Division champion Detroit Pistons, called me recently to put in some good words for some of his players. I have never received a call like that in all the time I've filled out this ballot. You get goofy promotional mailings and packages from PR guys ("Enclosed: Tracy McGrady's MVP Kit" or "Grand Kenyon for Rookie of the Year"). But not phone calls from coaches. Carlisle told me that he felt it was part of his job description. Carlisle feels that he should coach, guide, help and promote his players -- and that campaigning for his players in worthy categories was part of his day. He was calling about Ben Wallace for Defensive Player of the Year (Wallace already had my vote). He was also promoting Corliss Williamson for Sixth Man of the Year. And he put in some words for Jerry Stackhouse for Second or Third Team All-NBA, reminding me that Stackhouse has adjusted and sacrificed his game for a team that won its division. Carlisle also said that when he's finished trying to reach all the voters, he will have placed more than 100 phone calls. A coach getting ready for the playoffs probably has other things to do, but Carlisle has made these awards a priority for a few weeks. I don't know what the results will be. But I imagine Wallace, Williamson and Stackhouse appreciate it. Carlisle is showing real loyalty, and players appreciate that. But as a former, unnoticed role player, Carlisle is probably sensitive to the often-unnoticed things players have to do to help their teams win. Nobody knows what Corliss Williamson is doing better than his coach. So I think it's smart of Carlisle to let the media know that Williamson, a vagabond NBA player, is having a good year on a team that won its division. Ben Wallace wasn't even drafted. Stackhouse couldn't coexist with Allen Iverson in Philadelphia and was exiled to Detroit. Yet here's their coach saying, "My guys are getting it done this year and I'd appreciate it if you think of them come voting time." This seems to me to be a creative and labor-intensive way of being a player's coach. We hear so much about the NBA being a player's league -- that coaches have to capitulate much more to players than legendary Celtics coach Red Auerbach ever did. And while I don't see what Carlisle is doing with his phone campaign as overly coddling, I do see it as a constructive way to keep his team on his side. This seems to me to be a creative and labor-intensive way of becoming a player's coach while still being able to yell at a guy when he blows an assignment or breaks a team rule. Carlisle has proven he'll support his players all the way. That counts for something when he has to get down on somebody. And it appears to be working on the court. Just look at the Central Division. At the beginning of the season, you had to have Charlotte, Milwaukee and Toronto ranked ahead of Detroit. But the Pistons won the division. Carlisle hitting the phones to promote his players doesn't seem like such a big deal, now that I think about it. Those are the guys, after all, that got a former role player's head-coaching career off to a pretty nice start.
Riet, Why do you continue to post articles that are not relevant with anything I said? lol I talked about Carlisle's gruffness with his players. Did I say anything about Carlisle not liking his players or sticking up for him? Your article says nothing about whether or not Carlisle rubs them the wrong way or whether some players are put off by him.
