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Rockets.com: Lin on Not Playing in 4th Qtr

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Mar 7, 2013.

  1. flamingdts

    flamingdts Member

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    A ton of players have thrived being the 2nd option.

    Lin doesn't need to be the first option to show how good he is.
     
  2. Phillycheese

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    Yes, Beverley could be Lin at the GSW stage. But then again Bev has been given more opps than Lin has and still has not dropped 38 on a contender. Let's just use the Nets game as a gauge - given 24 min, if I see Bev get 20-8 or something like that then I'll start to believe he is on Lin's trajectory.
     
  3. davek

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    You're soo cool cause you're soo calm and collective. What a joker. We need someone in the top 15 PG stats or we won't win.....ok good luck with that thought. Some players choke during playoff...how you are your stats going to help you then? Start running stats on that too? You might as well call NYK an elite team...lets see how well they do in the playoffs. lmao
     
  4. bbsuser

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    True. But Lin has to be the PG. If you take out that part from a PG, I'm not sure if there's any PG can excel ...
     
  5. conquistador#11

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    actually against playoff teams, he plays like a top 10 pg. 31 games now.
     
  6. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    It might have to do with color for you, but not for me personally. Of course an average NBA Joe can put up 30 points on any given night. They were good enough to not be filtered out of the NBA right? All any player needs is get into a hot streak. Let me name you some:

    - Our own Delfino unless you think he is better than an NBA Joe
    - Luther Head. A complete scrub otherwise, but capable of putting up 30 points when his shot is falling
    - Aaron Brooks. Hell, he even averaged 20/5 for a season with us. Are you saying he is a star PG?
    - Chase Budinger can and has put 30+ points before if he is feeling it from downtown. Would anyone outside of DD ever consider him anything more than an NBA Joe?

    Lin is averaging roughly 12-13 points in the season right now on 35 minutes of play as roughly our 2nd or 3rd scoring option. He is NOT a good player and definitely not at his contract. Has he shown flashes? Yes but so did AB, Chase, and Delfino. Can he continue and improve and prove the rest of us wrong? Of course he can. Any young player can improve. Just ask Lowry that. Do I think he will improve to be considered a good or great player? Definitely not at this time.
     
  7. Patterned919

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    So what are you saying? If we made our judgments by filtering games, then a lot of things might be upside down.

    The final word on this is that no GM, or even fan in their right mind, would take Lin over any of those players in the top 10.
     
  8. muas2010

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    True. But that's the only way to shoot down either the LOFs or LOHs....or Lin's own Demon.:grin:
     
  9. Phillycheese

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    I disagree. If McHale continues these bonehead moves, it will be him that goes, and it will have nothing to do with Lin because Lin is not the type to throw a coach under the bus.
     
  10. GoRockets!

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    Good questions. I don't know any of the answers.

    From what I read, Les is a hands-off owner. I don't know to what extent he weighs in when it comes to hire or fire the head coach, when it comes to bring Lin back.

    Morey just got his contract extension. It's pretty safe to say Les trusts Morey to do his job. If Morey believes strongly that let Lin go and keep McHale as the Head coach gives the Rockets best chance to win a championship, would Les listen to Morey? I would like to think so because from Les's interview, winning a championship is his ultimate goal.

    Morey tweeted just a few weeks ago that McHale should be the coach of the year. Some posters said Morey and McHale are buddies due to their Celtics connection. It's very hard for me to believe Morey would fire McHale in any circumstances. Yes Les is a businessman and Lin means business revenue. But some businessman owner values championship/pride more than profit (Mark Cuban comes to mind). We can't say for sure that Les only cares about profit that Lin brings, can we?

    Just my two cents. Take it what you will. :p
     
  11. muas2010

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    Hey...even LJin7 said that race was and is still a factor that's why he has to prove himself over and over again. I'm just looking at his ordeal from a 30,000 foot level. Can an average NBA Joe lead a team to 7 straight wins? Not even Harden can on this and he's a much better player then Lin. At some point you have to put credit to where credit is due....JLin7 can play ball...plain and simple.

     
  12. Calmwater

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    Hahaha should we call you The Troll or The Racist, pick your choice :p

     
  13. chenjy9

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    Racism may still be a factor for other people, but it is not for me. Not sure how dumbed down I need to make that for you to understand. I personally don't what race or color he is. Lin played on great stretch of basketball last year. That was it. LOTS OF PLAYERS HAVE DONE THAT, especially before scouting reports come in and defensive plans are made around the player. Harden is a consistent 20+ point player game in, game out. Lin is NO WHERE CLOSE TO THAT.., at all. I never said Lin can't play ball, I just said he was not a good player. He is getting paid like a good player and he is not playing consistently like one. You can personally fan girl and gush over JLin7 or whatever future nicknames you come up with for him, but it doesn't change the fact that he is currently overpaid and under performing.
     
  14. Second_Cousin

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    That's pure hate ladies and gentlemen. You are either intentionally lying for whatever reason or unintentionally stupid. Over more than 60 games including games where he has had 38 pts and 12 assists (14 last year)... You say he has shown you NOTHING about being a good PG. Yet you have no problems promoting Bev with 0 points and 3 assists for a team loss. Your own statements contradict each other in the same paragraph. Do you know what the word inconsistent means? In order to be inconsistent you have to have highs and lows, otherwise you are just consistently good or bad.
     
  15. The Rocket

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    race is a cop out....

    we could put it this way....if Jeremy Lin was black would he be in the position he is today????? with the fat contract and the starting point guard of his team????

    If anything race should make him work harder....in America everyone's race has advantages and disadvantages....we as smart beings should learn how to use our race to our advantage....
     
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    It's amazing that after 60+ games people still don't understand this, and are still wondering why his assists are so "low".
     
  17. Patterned919

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    lol I didn't even say all of that. You're a funny guy. All that happened was you said Lin is top 10 and I said he isn't. In response to the first part of your posts...well what can I say :cool:
     
  18. muas2010

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    That's what we all like to think, but we live in the reall world. I'm not speaking in terms of KKK type racism mind you. Please do name your PGs that lead their team to 7 consecutive wins...this is going to be fun. Lastly, I don't gush over Lin and I surely did not come up with JLin7...:rolleyes:
     
  19. Dementium

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    IMO you are being naive about that. Often times the race thing is subconscious. We each have prejudices and beliefs built into us.

    There are plenty of studies that prove this. Show the picture of a caucasian man vs an african american and a statistically significant number of people will tell you the caucasian man is more trustworthy.

    IMO its not something truly overt, but you would b either naive or in denial if you think race has nothing to do with how hes perceived. Case in point plenty of posters on this thread who seem to think hes still just a backup. Theres been plenty of proof this season that he is good. Your paradigms however are that he sucks so you will look for things that will prove that.
     
  20. The Rocket

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    dressed in the same clothing w/ the same esteem?.....class is different than race and people often mix these things up....Let's say jeremy lin went to cal state long beach....his perception would be different, IMO he would be more respected....but that is an entirely different discussion

    the fact that Jeremy Lin went to Harvard is also a contributing factor....he is not only the first american born asian to play in the nba but he went to the top university in the nation....
     

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