OK, let's see if this clears anything up. I didn't include the definition of Trade Exception (we all seem to grasp this), but doesn't the example confirm what I believe? Link: members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm There are some common misconceptions about non-simultaneous trades. For one, teams cannot use a Traded Player exception to sign free agents; it can be used only to acquire existing contracts from other teams. For another, teams cannot combine a Traded Player exception with other exceptions (such as the Mid-Level exception or the 125% plus $100,000 margin from another trade) in order to trade for a more expensive player. For example, a team with a $1 million Traded Player exception cannot combine it with their $2 million player to trade for a $3 million player (see question number 72 for more information on combining exceptions). Here is a more complicated example of a legal non-simultaneous trade: A team has a $4 million Traded Player exception from an earlier trade, and a $10 million player it currently wants to trade. Another team has three players making $4 million, $5 million and $7 million, and the teams want to do a three-for-one trade with these players. This is legal -- the $5 million and $7 million players together make less than the 125% plus $100,000 allowed for the $10 million player ($12,600,000), and the $4 million player exactly fits within the $4 million Traded Player exception.
You can use TE to acquire a player under contract.(or S&T of a free agency) A 4.2M TE means you can acquire a MLE level player/free agency(S&T). future 2nd round pick+TE for Sarunas Jasikevicius
If they want anything we have to offer. I think that Stro and Head may get it done if he demands to be traded to Houston. I think you guys are crazy if you think we could get him for less.
James could walk for nothing. If they do a sign and trade, maybe they can get something in return players, picks, cash.
we can ask the raptors to resign mike jame start with 4.2 million for 6 years, then we use our trade exception to acquire him.
Toss in a future first rounder and they would probably do it. But would MJ agree to that kind of deal? I'd rather do this and save the MLE for somebody like Harpring.
That's exactly why they wouldn't take less. What else could we offer to equal James potential contract? Juwan? Why would they take his lousy contract when they could just let James walk? We have T-Mac, Yao, Juwan, Stromile, Rafer, Sura, Mutombo, Bowen and Head under contract for next year. T-Mac and Yao are untouchable obviously. They might bite on Stro. There's no way they take Rafer back. Sura may never play again. Mutombo is on his last legs, he and Bowen could be used as filler. Head is our best tradeable asset, arguably our only tradeable asset. Juwan may be the least tradeable guy in the league with his contract and could only be traded for players in similar situations, Derek Fisher, Raef Lafrentz, etc...
I was thinking using the 4.2 TE. It does absolutely nothing to their cap situation, but at the same time it could net them some future considerations.
It is certainly better than nothing, but for some reason I'd see the Raptors offering Mike more money anyway and just letting him walk if he doesn't take it. I'm not getting the vibe that V-Span will be here next year. The following year...definitely. But this off-season, I'd rather use the full MLE on one player, use the TE's somehow on another MLE type player, and fill in with the draft.
That's something to consider. However, I think James will sign for way more than the 4.2 mill and you can't combine the TE with other players. We could take back one of their bad contracts. Maybe Alvin Williams or Eric Williams if they exercise their options. I would be up for Eric, not Alvin though. Eric is likely to jump ship anyway.
I think the Rockets made a mistake these last 2 years in trying to surround TMac and Yao with veteran players etc. They failed to notice that the way the rules are now being called in the NBA, that perimeter players that can shoot are essential. They went for band aid players, instead of building for the future. DD
Somewhat true, but it was hard to know how the rules were going to be interpreted 2 years ago. After last season, I agree...they should have gone after more shooters and penetrators. However, at that point, they were already part-committed to Sura, Barry, Mutombo, etc. and probably felt like they should pursue band-aids to give that whole crew one last chance. Obviously it failed, but I don't think you can completely fault them for not knowing how the new rules would go. I mean, remember how illegal defense rules changed and changed back..never interpreted the same way, etc.. for a while?
I think the rockets would be crazy to give up any assets for Mike James. Sign him for the MLE or let him go elsewhere. He is I believe 31 years old and I would not give up any of my youth for him at that age.
