His stats last year were very similar to Cato's... Dampier for nothing? Look at Dallas' total team salaries and at ours...theirs is close to $ 90 mio. this year, ours something around $ 50 mio...and I don't think their team is much better than ours...in fact, I think they will realize how much they miss Nash this year. Dampier's contract is huge and runs a long time for a guy his age!
Here's the response that I received from Larry Coon: Yes -- here's how the Houston-Orlando trade worked: There are sometimes multiple ways to configure a trade, and teams are allowed to choose the way that gives them the greatest advantage. Houston was able to use their exceptions to configure this trade such that they were essentially trading Francis for nothing. Because of this, they created a TPE for Francis' outgoing trade value. From Orlando's perspective, it was a simple "4-for-3" swap, combining the outgoing values of Howard, Gaines, Lue and TMac to be able to receive the combined incoming values of Francis, Mobley and Cato. From Houston's standpoint it was broken down into three separate trades, completed simultaneously. They used their TPE from the Glen Rice trade (about $7 million) to accept Howard and Lue. The combined salaries of Cato & Mobley were used to accept TMac's salary. That left them trading Francis for nothing, which generated a new TPE. (My friend Don Jones at RealGM.com provided the details on how this trade parsed out.) Houston's new TPE is for $5.5 million, according to Don.
Actually, it isn't the same thing. By trading Griffin and agreeing to pay his salary, the Rockets are really just including $800K in cash into the deal. But, that also means that Griffin's salary counts against Chicago's cap, NOT Houston's. Do you see the difference? It's exactly the same in the sense that Chicago doesn't have to pay out any additional cash for Griffin. It's different in that our Cap number is lowered by $800K. If we are hovering near the luxury tax level, then that could be huge.
HillBoy: I really don't know what to tell you except that I understand your frustrations regarding CD as a whole. He's been close to awful since the Drexler trade, but I think they did very well in rebuilding their reputation this summer. I won't give them credit for McGrady as he essentially fell into their laps, but it has to be included on CD's track record as an A+ transaction. We'll just have to agree to disagree on Mutombo. His stats show that he can still be effective in limited playing time and there's not really much that we need him to do except to stand in the paint and take up space. Offensively when Yao is not in the game, we now have the luxury of simply handing the ball to the game's best scorer - Mutombo is not needed. I don't know what you mean by saying we traded 3 guys who had no business being on the team in the first place. I thought Pitkowski and Griffin were very good signings and still think they were - it's just unfortunate they didn't work out. Two solid, disciplined, veteran role players signed to short, cheap deals. Where's the problem there? Griffin was a starter on the Western Conference Finalist Dallas Mavericks and we could have never predicted he'de be injured all season. Piatkowski was a career 40+% 3pt shooter who in theory should have fit in brilliantly with the inside outside scheme. We could have never guessed that his shot would go south.
-- NOPE -- 0 GM points for you -- Remember the PS2 Rule... just because you can think of an available backup Center that you like better doesn't mean that 1) that player wants to play for the Rox 2) you will have enough cap money to sign him if he does want to play here this is the real world here - there are 31 other teams out there bidding on these players and you can't take on any substantial salaries... do you want to try again Mr. Dawson ?
yes. So the reason for not using the TE is two-fold. 1.) Preserves the trade exception for later use. 2.) Minimizes the salary cap figure.
Not necessary - maybe they were planning on cutting AG if they couldn't trade him, in which case they would have eaten his salary, anyway. AG might not have anything left.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/425/gamelog Mutombo's game log shows some pretty good production...on a game-to-game basis in my opinion...
Why was there absolutely no mentin of this trade in this morning's Chronicle? Am I missing something? Has the deal gone down or not?
nope - just too much hype about the Astros and Texans it is talking a back seat until finalized http://chicagosports.chicagotribune...3bulls,1,739583.story?coll=cs-bulls-headlines Rockets, Bulls OK deal for Mutombo By K.C. Johnson Tribune staff reporter September 3, 2004, 10:49 PM CDT The Bulls and Houston have agreed in principle to a trade that will send Dikembe Mutombo to the Rockets in exchange for Eric Piatkowski, Adrian Griffin and Mike Wilks, according to several league sources. The trade talks were first reported in the Tribune on Aug. 6, the day the Bulls acquired Mutombo from New York in the Jamal Crawford trade. They moved forward this week when Houston agreed to pay Griffin's salary of $807,546, a league source said. This will allow the Bulls to waive Griffin with no financial commitment. Piatkowski, a 6-foot-7-inch swingman, has shot 40 percent from three-point range in 10 NBA seasons and will give the Bulls the perimeter shooting presence they have lacked in recent years. Wilks, a free agent who will sign a three-year contract with one year of guaranteed money, will battle Chris Duhon for the backup point-guard job. The trade is expected to become official next week, contingent on Mutombo and Piatkowski passing physicals. Copyright © 2004, The Chicago
If we are going to pay Griffin's contract I wish we could just keep him. I think he would be a good role player if healthy. Anyone know if his injuries are career ending in magnitude?
Mutombo had 10 blocks then a 6 block game against NJ last year... he played over 40 minutes both games.
aries323 also Mutombo had a game against the wolves where he scored 18 pts on 8-12 shooting, 17 boards, and 2 tapouts in 38 minutes. Not bad for a guy who some claim can't score a wit and plays in a wheelchair league. Also he blocks more shots on a per minute basis than Ben Wallace. His stats and production are similar to Cato's, so the way I see it in the end we traded Francis, Mobley, Piakowski and Griffin for McGrady, Howard, Lue and Gaines, while adding Sura and Ward with the midlevel exemption. Mutombo easily replaces Cato who was never a true 4 to begin with. I think if Piakowski and Griffin were not traded they would have seen very little playing time or none at all this upcoming season.
I am psyched about this trade. Motombo can give us EXACTLY what we need in filling the last hole we had. I think that this lineup has the capacity to go deep into the playoffs. Are you kidding, if you had told me after the playoffs last year that we would have a lineup of... Ward/Lue/Gaines TMac/Sura JJ/Boki Jhow/MoT Yao/Deke ...I would have jumped for joy. A++ offseason for the Rockets organization, I think that we improved more than any other team during this offseason. Honestly, the only team I am really concerned about in the WC is Minnesota. We might have the ability to win the new division this year and take as high as the second or third seed. I am VERY optimistic. Minnesota probably beats us in the WC Finals, but I think we have the ability to get there with this team.
Who cares? All of them together would have put in more than 2-3 minutes per game, not enough time to have meaningful impact. Deke WILL put in meaningful minutes and has the ability to have an impact on the glass and on the defensive end. He won't need to be much of a scorer because TMac will probably be on the floor when Yao is resting, as will either JHow or MoT. Deke will have an impact where the three we traded would not have.
