Yeah. Unfortunately that's just ball discussion on the internet. You're just bound to get clown takes like OP's. It's just passion mixed with stupidity most of the time. Clutchfans is mostly an older generation too, so you get a lot of jaded negativity mixed with stubbornness. But just like reddit or twitter - you got your handful of users with actual good takes that can get their point across without being a jackass and that's what keeps you coming back. Just gotta be able to filter the BS out and appreciate the good takes.
You know, I think it'd be ****ing awesome if Tate won a ring here. Imagine the rollercoaster this man has been on and just steady given us the same production regardless of whether we had the WOW era duct-tape "stars" ****ing us up, Silas and the "Young Men Who Shouldn't be Allowed to Run ****" era, or Ime's resurrection.
They aren't in the rotation of any better players? Jeff and Tate didn't play anything but garbage time and spot injury minutes Let's get down to what this is, the 300th iteration of your irrational anger that Ime played Holiday Holiday shot TS 59%, 3.3 made 3's per 36 on .398% Sheppard shot TS 46%, 2.0 made 3's per 36 on .371% Holiday on-off: PLUS 1.6 / VORP 0.3 / WS48 1.22 Sheppard on-off: NEGATIVE 10.1 / VORP 0.1 / WS48 0.55 Holiday played 62 games averaging 12.8 minutes Sheppard played 52 games averaging 12.6 minutes Because of this great tragedy, you have lost faith, oh my. This is beyond silly and absurd.
I never had any faith in Ime's player management to lose. If the Celtics kept him, they don't win a championship based solely on Ime's player management issues.
Compare comparable players. Steph Curry /= Marcus Smart. Stupid. Both teams had 8-man rotations. So why does that make Kerr a good player manager and Udoka a bad one? Playing more players doesn't make you a good manager. Ok, who would you have given those PG minutes to over Smart (who is a 3x 1st team all defense and 2021 DPOY) on that team? 6'1" Payton Pritchard? Your argument is weak sauce. Sry. Curry made Smart look bad, not because of Udoka, but because Curry is Curry and Curry does Curry stuff. That isn't Udoka's fault. He had his best defender on him. Everyone called Belichick a great coach, until he no longer had the best player and suddenly he appeared very mediocre. GS beat BOS because they had the better player and the better team. No amount of "player management" was going to fix that. Anyway, if you don't like Udoka, fine. Just say it. But your "facts" are not factual.
I think the point is, could he have won if he had embraced a bigger rotation and not been so stubborn when it comes to forcing defense only guys like Smart into the game for 40 minutes? Impossible to say for sure... but that's how he failed with the Celtics and that's how he failed the Rockets. Once the Celtics dumped Udoka, they dumped some of his favorite players and that's how they became champions
Tate has always been a winning player and could help any team with his grit, tenacity, anc toughness. Played some great games last year. Holiday has also been a quality player and Jeff Green has been a vet mentor and teacher. These players are back for a reason.
I don't really see the problem? Holiday is a solid shooter, Tate can do everything except shoot, and Uncle Jeff is good for 3 minute cameos every now and then. Every team needs 3rd stringers. Hopefully all on vet minimum!!!
We need contracts for matching in trades and we have all their bird rights. Give them overpaid 1 year contracts to use in February.
Again, not factual. It is also possible that he wouldn't even have made it as far as he did had he used alternate rotations. You don't know. You are just guessing. As Carl Sagan said "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" The fact that he didn't win with the rotations that he had isn't proof that he could have won. But you know what I'm not guessing about? 1. He's received votes for COTY. 2. His teams always have winning records and he only missed the playoff once, barely. 3. He was hired, rehired, and extended as a head coach. 4. His teams have overachieved based on pre-season projections So I understand you don't like Udoka. I got it. Agree to disagree. I'm done.
Career .309 from 3? That's not a shooter!! I hope he makes some miraculous bump this off-season and becomes a .350+ shooter this year. At this stage last year was an aberration, not the new norm. If he shoots .350ish from 3, he is easily an NBA rotation player
As long as we still have enough noney to sign a 2 guard I fine with it. All 3 have been good insurance for one someone us injured or have to sit out for whatever reason
