Rockets, Blazers discussed a Mo Taylor-for-Derek Anderson swap?

Why not both? If the Rockets had any chance of landing Marshall, it wouldn't involve Taylor, that's for sure. Make the swap for Anderson and then trade the TE or Spoon+a future 1st for Marshall. You got yourself a pretty good, versatile team.

Of course, easy for me to say.

 

Please refer to my posts in the "[Fanball] Rockets interested in D. Marshall?" thread so you can understand how bad of an idea trading our 1st round pick for Marshall really is.

 

i don't think its a bad idea at all. don't you want a PF who will get you 10-10 1.5blk, 1.5stl, 40% from 3? he isn't even going to ask for a large contract. he isn't a fossil.

and who are we going to get in the draft anyway? we are going to make the playoffs and have a mid-late first round pick. will that pick be able to put up those #'s? i would do both trades and hope to sign a PG this summer to have a lineup next year like this:

yao-deke-spoon
don-ho-pad
tmac-da-bowen
wes-barry-gaines
jaric-sura-ward

spoon and wesley can be traded this summer aswell since both will enter their final year and make a nice package. we can be contenders by this time next year.

 

Mo is just in a wierd position now that Howard is here and we have 2 PF's that can (sometimes) shoot and dont rebound well. I would love to see him get some of Howards minutes but that wont happen. Howard is the more experienced player. Anyways I think Mo would want to be here, just would want to be more part of the team. I think he should be traded though because he would get more minutes somewhere else. He was great for us last year and we all know what he is capable of when he is confident. JVG seems terrible about slamming players confidence and I am sure that hurt his play some. DA would be a nice addition and even if he doesnt fit in, he would be more movable than Mo. Wesley hasnt been too great for us and DA could get a lot of his minutes. Make it happen!

 

If I;m not mistake DA is an above average passer. So much so that I think he played the point some in CLE. Anyway it would be a very good pickup as relief for Tmac and insurrance for Sura. Plus we could have better added value than MoT from more playing time making him easier to trade next year.

 

While I'm done backing up Mo, DA needs 30+ minutes a game to get in the O flow. Less than 25 would almost guarantee something close to an 0fer from him while robbing shots from the others. He's not a come off the bench kinda guy. Mo does need to go, but I just don't want a DA sulking at lack of PT or out there jacking up shots right off the bench. If that were the case, it would be a tougher time trading him than Mo.

 

Please refer to my post above again. I said FUTURE 1st. I would never trade this year's, or maybe even next year's pick, for Marshall. We are in a position to need good, young talent right now. In a couple of years, we should be contenders and that pick would be weak. Detroit did the same thing to acquire Arroyo. I like the idea of Marshall on the team, but don't want to give too much. That said, it's going to take something more substantial to land him other than our TE or/especially Spoon.

 

i will take your word for it since i havent seen much of DA as a player (i just followed his stats). so he can start at the 2 and have 30mpg while wesley comes off the bench as the back-up point, averaging 24 MPG.

although in that situation what you said about DA will become true about david. IMO wesley and spoon will be traded this summer anyway because of thier contracts comming to an end. so DA is a nice pickup.

 

Taylor has not contributed a thing this year. His game is not suited for our new offfense featuring McGrady. His value came because we ran a strict inside-outside game last year. Mo T was the post man when Yao was on the bench.

Now that we have McGrady as the number 1 option, playing 40+ minutes a game, we do not need MO T. What we need is a scoring guard to come off the bench and spell McGrady while he rests. McGrady is gonna age prematurely and risk injury playing 44 minutes a game. He has to though because of Yao's recurring foul problems.

Anderson is worth a role of the dice bc he could provide that offense off the bench. Wesley and Barry, while great pick ups, cannot do that.

 

im all up on this trade and with padgett showing what he really means to this team, i wouldn't mind losing mo t. i even think padgett has contributed more to this team than mo t with all of his years here combined. padgett hustles and is so unselfish while mo t just waits there, gets the ball, play his defender like his a friggin guard, doesnt know how to post up and sucks on defense. ill pick padgett over mo t anytime plus, if we got derek anderson, that's another offensive spark off the bench while yao and mcgrady is on the bench. i say go for this trade!

 

Those numbers you are suggesting he would average as a Rocket are dream numbers. You and me both know if we acquired him, JVG would only play him 25-30 minutes or so and make him split time with Howard. This means we are only looking at 6-8 PPG, 5-6 RPG. We could get that from an unmotivated Taylor if we wanted to let alone a guy we would have to give up a 1st round pick to get?!?!

As far as the draft, if you follow college basketball you know what I am talking about. This draft isn't top-heavy, it is just very deep meaning that our mid-1st round pick could and should land us a stud player with potential to be a future starter. This draft is absolutely loaded with NBA calibur PG's, some nice forward's and big men.

If you have been following the Marshall saga, you would know that teams interested keep falling. The rumor is they are balking because they aren't prepared to give up a 1st round pick for the guy---why should we be any different?

Mogrod,
I saw that you said a future 1st rounder and I still hold firm to my point that it is foolish. I don't care if its this year's pick, next year's, 5 years from now or 10 years from now. We're still talking about giving up a valuable pick for a guy who could very well walk at the end of the season. What assurance could you give me that he will resign with us for fair, market value and not walk leaving us looking like idiots?

 

Fair and valid points. I see where you are coming from. Maybe I over compensated with the pick. I just think it will take more than the TE to land Marshall for he is and would be a really good addition to the team.

 

I am not against adding Marshall, I just don't want to give up too much. My ideal scenario would be the Raptors get tired of teams backing down as the dealine comes closer and they settle for our TE and perhaps a 2nd round pick---hopefully just the TE. It seems as if they are pretty hard core on moving Marshall so hopefully CD can play his cards and catch them when they're desperate.

 

I rarely see MoT passing the ball ever. It's not just this year. Usually ball at hand, he will make a move to score, unless he's double team or have no shot then he will dish it out to a teammate with a 1 sec shot clock.

 

as long as our 1st round draft pick stays put i'm down with the DA for taylor trade

i share the same view as Clutch (that moochie - spoon comparison was genius)

 

They've discussed it..so are they still talking?
I hope so. Mo really is useless. I don'ts ee why the Blazers would want Mo though. And the Blazers need to makes ome changes cuz yeah they're struggling.

Derek Anderson is relatively young like 30 yearso ld and 6-5 so I think he could play well here. He'd be good guy in our rotation..with Sura, Barry, Wesley, Strickland..and occasionally Barrett or Gaines. Tmac at the 3 with Padgett..I think Padgett should get more playing time..I always knew he could play and wondered why he didn't..I'm glad he's getting to play now. And Juwan has been playing well he's accustomed to our system now. And tonight Weatherspoon is playing and he's not bad at all. He's big but he's still pretty mobile. Yao and Dikembe are set at the center.

I wonder if we're going to resign Jon Barry next season. I think we should sign him for 2 years or something..not too much money. I don't think we will though. I hope we can get Anderson to take his place.

And I really hope we can sign Stromile Swift in the offseason.

It would be awesome if we got Jason Kidd. Three All Stars..and future All Star Swift.

 

Bad deal, MoT is way better then Derek Anderson.

 

It's like trading big for small, except it's not .

 

meh...

 

Not that this would stop the trade. But I find it funny that IF the deal went down it would reunite Derek Anderson with Juwan Howard. Remember the Howard foul on Anderson when Howard played for the Mavs and Anderson for the Spurs. The foul in the NBA Playoffs that had Anderson coming down and dislocating his shoulder? If I remember correctly Howard even got suspended for a game because the league deemed the play dirty. I thought that was crap and the foul wasnt that hard but the "landing" was; and ususally the NBA always looks at the "end result" when it comes to punishments versus what "actually happened". But I digress.

Anyway, make the deal.