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Rockets better without Brooks

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by AvgJoe, Nov 14, 2010.

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  1. leebigez

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    Lowry was really fighting through those screens tonight :grin:
     
  2. jopatmc

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    Our starting unit, which included Lowry, scored the ball just fine. This game was lost when we took out Lowry and Scola and brought in the bench. Both times our starting had gotten us decent sized leads and their bench busted us down. Ish is not ready. This was one of those games. We could have used Brooks, yes. We could have used Budinger too.......and Yao. We got less than zero from Lee and not much from Hill. By the time our bench gave up the lead, Ademan had to come back with Kyle. He is having to overplay the starters because the bench is skeleton thin and not getting it done.

    Lowry was fine out there tonight. He played Rose straight up. Rose knocked down 4 of 5 three pointers. He normally makes one.

    To try to prove that Brooks is more important to this team than Lowry is because of this loss, would be a fallacy.

    The one thing Lowry failed to do was be aggressive enough in taking the ball to the rim and putting it up. He should have taken more drives and shots at the rim when it was obvious that the Bulls were taking away Martin. You could see early in the first half that the BUlls were taking Martin away. Adelman should have recognized this and told Lowry to drive to the rim and finish or dish.
     
  3. DaDakota

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    It is amazing, I was charting it all night long and am debating putting a thread up about it, but I can just hear all the excuses piling up.

    Lowry is a great guy to have coming in off the bench for 20 minutes to push the tempo, play tough D, and rev up the team.

    As a starter, he gets exposed, he can't go all out, he doesn't have a starters NBA game, and his impact is nill as teams clog the paint late and force you to make a shot.

    Leeb, you were right.......but do you want to bet not a single AB should be off the bench guy will agree?

    Too bad...too bad.

    DD
     
  4. larsv8

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    Definately not because of the loss.

    Its because he is a better player.
     
  5. jopatmc

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    That's your opinion.

    He does have higher trade value.
     
  6. leebigez

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    Rose did anything he wanted to tonight to lowry, but most of it is not Lowry's fault just like i trid explaining to the simple people its not brooks fault either. The true core of destruction is the rockets inability to play pick and roll in space. They don't have 1 guy other than chuck who can defend in space and that hangs the guards out to dry. I chart these things an have been doing for awhile. Just like the martin/brooks backcourt is defensively defecient, the yao/miller/scola front court is just as bad. No one can show and recover,so the rockets are opening the gate for the guard, but when you open the gate, the big still has to help and they can't and don't.
     
  7. larsv8

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    Yes it is an opinion. It also seems to be the opinion of the GM and the coach as well as all the other GMs who apparently value him more than Lowry. The only people who seem to disagree are fans with some sort of agenda.
     
  8. DaDakota

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    Because he is a better player.

    DD
     
  9. rocketsregle

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    There are posters with agendas for both sides. It is the opinion of the GM and the coach until they change it. An opinion that can change doesn't carry much weight. Just ask Rafer Alston.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    There is no agenda, there is frustration with people who can not see their noses in spite of their face.

    And all the data that is out there and available that AB is better, and not by a little bit, but by a lotta bit.

    DD
     
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    7 asst 4 to's for the starting pg tonight. I wonder what is his asst:to ratio this year after that contract?
     
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    I don't know why you AB lovers don't see the big picture. This game proved Lowry can play as a starter with scoring options around him.

    The starting unite outplayed Bulls starting unit on both end of the floor soundly when Lowry had Martin, Scola in the lineup. They beat Bulls starting lineup badly in 1st quarter, 3rd quarter and even gained ground at the end of the game.

    Rockets struggled when 2nd unit stepped on the floor and not enough scoring options out there, a passing PG has nobody to pass to. That's why AB is perfect for 2nd unit and Lowry fits better with starting lineup with current players.
     
  13. leebigez

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    Say what you want, but they were able to really press the curler(martin) and sag in on the post(scola) because lowry cant make the defense play defense.
     
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    At the same time, Bulls can't score easily either. Rockets gained ground with starting lineup. The Sum of offense+defense with Lowry is bigger than the sum of Offense + defense with AB.
     
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    13 asst and 9 to's in his last 2 games, want to guess who that is?
     
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    it's me
     
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    18 Assists and 22 TOs in a 7 game playoff series, possibly an NBA record, guess who that is?

    Half of the TOs Lowry had today were going to the basket and got called offensive foul. Those are not bonehead fouls, it's just unfortunate. More often than not he'll get to the FT line. Look at the game before you look at the stats.
     
  18. leebigez

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    It could be with a line like that,lol. Oh,oh, he impacted the game though. Wait till they play against OKC and westbrook.
     
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    I dvr every game and watch the game at least twice. So you're saying putting your head down and going to the basket and getting charges aren't boneheaded? Isn't that called player control?
     
  20. choujie

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    One of the foul is a "kick", which was rarely called. The other is at the end of shot clock, he had to go inside.

    Look at the big picture,isn't Rockets' starting lineup beat Bulls starting lineup on both ends soundly?
     

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