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Rockets are 26-2 when Yao scores 20 or more points

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OlajuwonShake34, Mar 13, 2009.

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    Shane/KL did try hard to get ball to yao.
    It's definitely a coach's decision. RA let Ron and AB play 'creative and freestyle' BB. RA even turned yao a brad-miller-yao who can shot 3 points. So sad for Fans cheering the 3 points.

    But both Ron and AB are TO machines, they can only create shot for themself. They need a discipline coach like JVG. They had no execetion plan and give up easy baskets in clutch time. No way they can win game like that in playoff.
     
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    Can you edit the title to Rockets are 26-2? Because I think I counted the Grizzlies one as a win.
     
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    this stat is a misconception. we are 27-1 with yao, but that does not mean we should force feed yao more than we already do. we already look for him on every play, he just passes it out more often than he shoots. what the stat means is that he not being doubled as quickly so he can put up more shots. the offense is already geared around Yao enough as it is.
     
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    Give the ball to Yao!!!Especially when he is not fronted! :mad:
    no need to shoot 2/12 like today
     
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    Thanks! (for saying I got good eye, cause you know... me being Asian... nevermind)

    Anyways...

    I might have had faulty memory. I'll look it up tonight, but not really wanting to. Anyways, let me ask you a question, and I can give you time for it if you want.

    26-2 is almost 93% of the games. 93% of 82 games is 76-77 games.

    With your logic, if the Rockets had Jeff or any other coach, then we'd be 76-6.

    And, what about those kick outs? We give Yao the ball, but he gets doubled. As smart as Yao is, he passes it out instead of trying to force a shot.

    Force feed Yao? No. Acknowledge that he is our number 1 guy? Of course. But, tell him that he has to shoot for every touch he gets? Hell no.

    One reason for his high FG% is because he doesn't force his shots.

    We try to force feed him all the time in the 4th. But there are two things stopping us.

    1. Passing from our ball handler, which is usually Brooks or Artest
    2. The fronting/moving type of defense that bothers Yao a lot.

    If I'm not mistaken, Jeff had nightmares against the fronting problem. Anytime we played the Warriors or Suns, it was a nightmare for the Rockets and the fans.

    Put this in consideration.

    1. Jeff had the ball go to Yao every single time. Maybe he had no choice but to rest him?

    2. Rick doesn't go to Yao every single time. He goes with a simple pick and roll, post up with Scola, or isolation with Artest. Maybe that actually helps Yao by not making him pound the ball every single time.
     
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    the stat says it all :D
     
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    Ok, nice post about JVG and Adelman's utilizing Yao. I was actually wondering about Yao's poor FT shooting he had in the 4th quarter of the playoffs.

    Where is the proof you said? :rolleyes:
     
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    That inside-out 3-pointer play by Yao was impressive. :p
     
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    he needs more shots, better shots. near the rim. more hooks and the fadeaway.

    we're basically unstoppable if yao is playing well and our perimeter players are making their shots.
     
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    well stated, yao is going to take us to the 2nd round and past....
     
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    Kinda sad that Yao has only scored 20+ points just 28 times this year. Part of that is on him. If we force fed him and allowed him to jack up shots at will, the record wouldn't be as good when he scores 20+ points.
     
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    And the Rockets are 13-0 when Yao scores 25 pts or more including wins against: the Mavs, Heat, Nuggets, Jazz, Celtics, and Cavs.
     
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    It has nothing to do with adelman.
     
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    Sure does, tells me that if I am playing the Rockets, you take the ball out of Yao's hands and make the other guys beat ya.
     
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    Right....I'm sure Hakeem could score 20 with ease if he faced the same type of defense allowed today. :rolleyes:
     
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    Next time some of you box score watchers watch the game, pull out a pen and pad and write down how many times yao touches the ball and where. If you watch the video durvasa posted earlier, you will see yao toughing the ball 40 times or so. If he wants to wait, dribble, wait, then pass it out, thats his deal. If you want to be a great scorer, you're going to force some shots over people. I've said it alot , that I'd rather yao force a shot 8ft from the basket than kick it out to 24 ft every time. Sometimes, the star players got to make a play. Sometimes that play is forcing a shot or drawing contact or just trying to make a play.
     
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    If Howard can average 22 or so in the game today, dream would score 25-30 easy.
     
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    But you would see him getting those points on slightly fewer shot attempts. He was a peremiter oriented center, so would benefit by the rules that the Lebron's and Kobe's benefit from. Many more FTs where he was solid. He would have more alley-oops too based on the zones and fronting.
     

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