Rockets acquire Suns picks, return Nets picks to Brooklyn

This rookie class is deep so we can still get a good player. 21-23 draft there were still some high impact players left in the draft by 10.

 

The upside is that Brooklyn isn’t getting much better through this draft. There’s a really good chance they’re still a lottery team by 2027. But other than that, this was a bad night for Houston.

 

I'm not jumping for joy over the 10th pick, but no reason to project doom and gloom because we didn't move up either. Tari himself was picked 17th in his class. Sengun was picked 16th. Good players can be picked anywhere. Look at the stars of the teams still in the postseason and they were picked all over the place. We can't predict the future on lottery night.

We made this trade with Brooklyn for additional draft assets and only ended up two spots behind them. That's a win in my mind. My only sadness was that Dallas moved up and possibly hurt the value of our 2029 pick. Other than that I don't care.

 

The pick this year had some chance to be a high pick, that chance is now 0. The mavs 29 pick was maybe the single most valuable draft asset any team owned; that asset significantly diminished. This has nothing to do with the trade itself, i was just too lazy to look for a better thread. Horrible day for the rockets, no other way to slice it.

 

I may be totally mistaken, but wasn't this years Suns pick a swap (as opposed to us receiving the Phoenix pick outright...) via the Nets?

If so, when the trade happened last summer, did we really think this season's Suns pick was even going to convey?

I -- and maybe I'm in the minority on this -- figured that any team with KD and Booker would have a good chance (for at least his year) of having a better record than us.

So I look at it as a 'draft-capital bonus' that most folks probably didn't even think we'd have, say, 8 months ago.

The key to the trade was to pick up those extra picks/swaps in '27 and '29.

Of course it'd have been super sweet to end up in the top 4 and drink even more of the Suns fans' tears, but we're in a good spot.

 

I'm not sure what you're talking about. This validated that it was a masterful trade by Stone.

We dropped from pick 8 to pick 10 (and I don't even think they'd have been pick 8 without having done this trade, as they were motivated to unload guys like DFS and Schroeder after having traded Bridges just to tank hard enough to get this 8 spot). I think it's likely that by acquiring the Phoenix pick we actually moved up in the 2025 draft while adding 2 extra picks to our stockpile. Because I think Bridges, DFS and Schroeder would have still been there if they didn't own their pick in this draft. And, even if you think they couldn't have refused that Knicks deal, then at least DFS and Schroeder would have remained. And it's so easy to make the play in in the East.

Stone won this trade hard. And so many of you were mad.

 

What are you talking about? Nothing i said has anything to do with the trade being good or bad, just that it was an awful day for the rockets because 2 of our 5 main assets got hammered.

 

i don't see how mavs '29 is affected when kyrie and ad will be 4 years older.

 

It’s an assumption that the Mavs now have their franchise player of the future and that they will soundly build around that and avoid the years in the wilderness that they would have had to go through once Kyrie and Davis aged out. Also the belief that other good players will ultimately want to play with Flagg. At the very least their 2029 outlook improved with the #1 pick. I think it’s a fair assumption that it won’t be a high lotto pick. But obviously things can change quickly, which is why any pick out way into the future can’t be guaranteed to be as valuable as it may seem to be (or visa versa). In a few months the 2029 mavs pick went from mediocre to excellent and now back to mediocre.

 

Ime won't play them.

DD

 

This is why I don't understand people wanting to trade out of this draft. There will be impact players available at 10.

 

I'm not clear which ones? We expected this pick to be 9-10. That's what the highest odds were. So it is what we expected. The Dallas pick did potentially lose value, but that really depends. With the ages of Anthony Davis and Kyrie (who probably won't even play this year) and the youth of Cooper, I could see them rebuilding around Cooper by 2029. We'll see.

Again, I agree it hurts it's value - I don't know that I'm ready to say it was hammered. I'd also argue that our 2027 Nets pick just gained value, because this Nets pick isn't about to save them.

 

I'm just talking about our assets today vs a week ago. The 25 suns pick had way more value because of it's potential at the trade deadline for example compared to now, because now we know it's not good. 29 mavs pick lost a lot of value IMO, compared to what it was. You can make that case for the 27 nets pick being better but it's the least valuable one we have anyway.

 

If they are playing well they will get PT.

 

At the trade deadline Suns could have made it to the playoffs and the pick would be a non lotto so not sure what you are on about.

Projected 9th pick got hammered cuz it became the 10th pick? Do you know what projected means?

 

Stone made an amazing trade to push the youth movement forward.

When the trade to give back the 2025 pick back to the Nets, nobody thought that the Suns would crumble. I fully was expecting a slightly better pick than the Rockets would have but, perhaps a low pick in the 20’s or very high teens.


That the Rockets got a #10 pick out of the deal is pretty amazing. Crazy that the Nets made the deal to protect themselves as they initiate their tankathon, and ended up with the #8 pick - yikes.

The bummer is that the Dallas #1 pick lottery win was an unbelievable defy the odds stroke of luck; well that just life in the NBA. Refer to all the anomaly previous #1 odd defying picks after teams traded stars to league destinations.

But in hindsight, the Rockets traded an asset that would have been #8 for additional picks in the future, which still figure to be pretty good. So although, it does not look as promising as before draft night, it’s still a very good position to be in.

 

True, but on the other hand Flagg will be four years better. Some teams expect their high draft picks to improve after four years, unlike the Rockets.

(AD will be dead in basketball terms so here's hoping Flagg has little effect)

 

How you figure that? The Mavs have plenty of caproom around that time. It’s Dallas, not some small market that players will avoid.

Not saying the pick didn’t get worse, but it wasn’t “that” good.

 

How? Who is going to sit? FVV Lol, Green Lol, Amen maybe because Ime is an idiot at rotations, Jabari same as Amen, Sengun LOL, Reed now that would be something.

 

Because their 2 best players will completely age out by that point and they don’t have draft picks after this season to rebuild.