1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Rockets Acquire Rights to David Andersen

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rockets934life, Jul 14, 2009.

  1. OHMSS

    OHMSS Rookie

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2009
    Messages:
    1,452
    Likes Received:
    33
    LOL unreal. Scola NEVER averaged a double double in Euroleague. Give me a break. He was a career 14/5 player in Euroleague.
     
  2. CXbby

    CXbby Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2002
    Messages:
    9,081
    Likes Received:
    11,967

    O rly?



    So let me get this straight... the Rockets are a rudderless ship because they just traded for a 29 year old no upside center, while giving up no one mind you, and that does not fit in with a rebuilding team.

    On the other hand, you would rather trade our 23 year old PG, who many argued to start over Brooks before the playoffs, for.... two 28 year old no upside guards, and.... Josh Boone?! And THAT fits with a rebuilding team?

    Ok let's just ignore the awfulness of your trade proposal for a second, and just focus on the irony here. So now you contradicted yourself, just to gripe about management. Unless you really just want Josh Boone? So we give up all our expiring contracts, a young PG, AND Chuck Hayes for... a slightly bigger but worse Chuck Hayes?

    Either you know very little about basketball, or your hate over Morey is clouding your judgment. And more and more it seems like a little bit of both. Anyone following your charade is tired of this thin act.

    The only thing consistent about you is your obtuse criticism over anything Morey.
     
  3. BarkleyHater84

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2007
    Messages:
    632
    Likes Received:
    97
    If Aaron Brooks averages 20 ppg this year, I will marry Jessica Simpson, extra weight and all! J/k. I think he can, but will he? :confused:
     
  4. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2002
    Messages:
    35,975
    Likes Received:
    36,809
    Yes, there is a strong history in the NBA for teams without stars having the best offensive seasons ever. Or wait. I was thinking of the Greek barn league -- sorry 'bout that.
     
  5. BarkleyHater84

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2007
    Messages:
    632
    Likes Received:
    97
    LOL, I agree.
     
  6. OHMSS

    OHMSS Rookie

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2009
    Messages:
    1,452
    Likes Received:
    33
    Euroleague has only existed for 9 years. And Scola is actually about 5th or 6th now.
     
  7. Laozi

    Laozi Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2006
    Messages:
    655
    Likes Received:
    1
    I dunno how his inside game will translate, hes not really athletic, but I thought the same think about Scola. He should get plenty of wide open mid range jumpers with Brooks and Lowry on picks, he looks pretty capable. His defense will likely be typical Euro non-existent, but I think the Rockets will be able to get the most out of him. I wonder who would be the worse match up for him: Dirk or Duncan?
     
  8. kenwonobi

    kenwonobi Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2009
    Messages:
    307
    Likes Received:
    3
    If somehow we have our best scoring year then Morey needs a huge hug from us all to thank for him whichever nugget of a player he pulled out of his orfices to pull that off. Maybe Budinger or Anderson? Maybe Taylor has some potential we dont know about? Maybe Brooks is alot better in a full season of starting or Ariza? Right now though it would look ingenius if somehow any of that where true or parts of it that add up to us having a great scoring year. Which is more likely Ariza, Brooks and some other players show more than thought had in the past as the focus of the offense. I can actually see some players doing that. Defense would probably suffer greatly if that is the case though.
     
  9. Rocketfanatic2

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2009
    Messages:
    632
    Likes Received:
    67
    I'm pleased to know that we got our center, but Andersen doesn't strike me as an NBA center. He has the ability to shoot 3's, which I like, but he isn't a very good rebounder. Also, watching some clips, it looks like he can get lazy at times. He does shoot for good percentages all around, but that is against weaker competition. Hopefully, he can produce for us this year, as he will be relied on heavily as he will be getting a lot of minutes. Not too risky, but he must prove that he is deserving of the minutes he will be getting.
     
  10. ThaBlackKnight

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2007
    Messages:
    959
    Likes Received:
    24


    Who knows how exactly it will work out, but everybody saw how badly we struggled in Games 5 and 7 vs. LA without a playmaker who could score easier than Aaron Brooks.

    I think thats where we need a guy like Tmac, since Yao is out.

    Sacremento had CWebb & Divac to post up, the pick n roll with Bibby and either big man, and occasionally Peja or Hedo creating their own shots when the game slowed down. Even Bobby Jackson was allowed to create off the bench. Thats 6 players who could create their own shot!

    Besides AB, and Scola , who else can create their own shot? Ariza and Battier are very limited in that. Lowery can, but not easily in the half court.

    Unless Jermaine Taylor turns out to be a great scorer in the NBA, we need more half court weapons to be able to compete.

    I've seen Tracy play off the ball before though. The problem was in years past, he was usually the only playmaker on the team, so he couldn't play off the ball that often. If the team he was on needed points, he almost had to have the ball in his hands.

    Kobe was the same in from 05-07, even with Phil Jackson coaching him. He couldn't run the triangle as much as he wanted to, with a bad team.

    So I think Tmac can play within the offense, and move the ball and move without the ball, but that will depend on his health. But we'll just have to wait and see on that. If he's not healthy, then obviously its not going to work out.

    With a point guard who can break down a defense, and considering Tmac is coming off a serious surgery, it might be better for him to play more off the ball to put less pressure on him the entire game to create, and just use those iso possessions in critical parts of the game.

    Theres no way that we'll win 35 games with Brooks, Taylor/buddinger/Wafer, Ariza, Scola, and Anderson as our starting 5. That simply won't cut it in the NBA. Like it or not, Tmac is our only reasonable answer right now, unless we do some lop-sided trade for a nice young scorer.

    Its not worth risking the future cap room just to trade somebody for the sake of getting rid of him.
     
  11. jlwee

    jlwee Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2003
    Messages:
    2,880
    Likes Received:
    76
    All i can say is, for the 1st time in his career, Dwight Howard is looking forward to play the rockets this coming season! :D
     
  12. leebigez

    leebigez Member

    Joined:
    Jun 24, 2001
    Messages:
    15,768
    Likes Received:
    756
    CXbby, I am sure u read the post, but didn't understand it. The idea or proposal was to get a young center in boone and 2 other players, hayes and dooling that would help the rox now and in the near future. I like lowry, but I like brooks more and if brooks plays like he did in the playoffs, lowry is going to be a guy going into the last yr of his deal. He will have a cap hold of 4m. A team looking for a young pg might target him and offer him a 3.5m per yr deal. Now the rox are trying have cap room for next summer plus since brooks and lowry are pretty much the same age and in terms of height. Dooling is the vet who is bigger than both and can help a guy like aaron. The other componets are just matching salaries and fitting needs. The rox for general purposes don't have a sg either. When u put the whole deal together, the rox get a 24 yr old center with starting experience, a 28 yr old sg and a 29 yr old pg. dooling has 3.j this year and 3.8 next. Boone has a qualifyer of 2.9m. Hayes has this at 2m. All the rox are giving up are lowry, whom they're replacing with dooling and 2 expirind contract which is what they want anyway.
     
    1 person likes this.
  13. MrButtocks

    MrButtocks Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2005
    Messages:
    7,533
    Likes Received:
    5,757
    How much money does this guy want? This may be the only NBA contract he ever gets. I doubt he's willing to leave much on the table.
     
  14. \/|()L/\T()R

    \/|()L/\T()R Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2009
    Messages:
    165
    Likes Received:
    5
    It seems he might be fine with a lot of time to work on his game, to make it fit more for the NBA style...unfortunately, time is the one thing he will not have.
     
  15. worzel gummidge

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2008
    Messages:
    6,533
    Likes Received:
    150
    Gersson said he's taking less money to play in the NBA. Figures that have been bandied about are $2.6 to $3M.

    An equivalent contract to his current Euro deal would be $5.6M.
     
  16. kenwonobi

    kenwonobi Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2009
    Messages:
    307
    Likes Received:
    3
    Unless we do some huge trade we may all need to start thinking about getting good with Tmac again. Our season probably depends on us pulling for him to ressurect his career in that number 3 uniform. If there are players who can do it is Tmac though. Hopefully he has something in the tank and wants to showcase it for the Rockets again. Time for Tmac to make a comeback and we need to back this guy if he isnt going to get traded for a full year. :)
     
  17. Williamson

    Williamson JOSH CHRISTOPHER ONLY FAN

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    15,787
    Likes Received:
    19,908
    Oh come on DaDakota. I specifically said it would be absurd to accuse you of racism. I wasn't calling you a racist. There is absolutely no reason for you to be offended. I was just noting that you seem to always have man crushes on the young white guys on our team. You essentially verified it by pointing out that you have only gone gaga over two black guys on our team in recent years. But whatever.

    Incidentally, Von Wafer is all flash and no bball IQ so I don't understand how he fits in with what you like. The guy is an offensive black hole that needs the ball in his hands to be effective.
     
  18. texascityman31

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2008
    Messages:
    738
    Likes Received:
    6
    LOL. Yeah I did'nt mean for it to come across as he is a step below Dirk. Maybe a poor mans bargani.
     
  19. sammy

    sammy Member

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2002
    Messages:
    18,949
    Likes Received:
    3,528
    Morey working his magic yet again.

    Imagine what this man will accomplish with real cap flexibility !
     
  20. shortfuse3

    shortfuse3 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2008
    Messages:
    3,912
    Likes Received:
    59
    considering we were one of the worst offensive teams among playoff teams last year, it shouldnt be hard to beat that.
     

Share This Page