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Rockets acquire KJ McDaniels for Isaiah Canaan, second round pick

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by justtxyank, Feb 19, 2015.

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Do you like the trade for the Rockets of Isaiah Canaan and a 2nd round pick for KJ McDaniels?

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  1. Rocket2008

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    I like it, but for the future, not for now. How in the world did this guy not participate in the dunk contest?
     
  2. Angkor Wat

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    I like these pickups a lot. KJ is a guy that doesn't need the ball in his hands, freakishly atheltic and a potential defensive stud. P2 gives us another good passer who can penetrate and find the open man. If they play together, I can see P2 throwing some pretty sick lobs and no-looks to KJ on the fast break.
     
  3. EightDoobies

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    Canaan wasn't getting time here, just like how we traded Troy for Brewer.
     
  4. Phillyrocket

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    I love Brewer but there is no doubt in my mind that he is gone this summer and KJ replaces him.
     
  5. J.R.

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Hinkie says Isaiah Canaan will likely start at point guard in the foreseeable future. Likely won't play tonight though.</p>&mdash; Max Rappaport (@MaxRappaport) <a href="https://twitter.com/MaxRappaport/status/568796538526429185">February 20, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    The Canaan will no longer sit idly by.

    MOREY Y U NO KEEP CANAAN & COVINGTON?!
     
  6. shastarocket

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    ^ It'll be RGV 2.0 haha
     
  7. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    I would guess if Ariza doesn't get together he is gone before Brewer. Rockets have an under the table agreement with Brewer to waive his player option so as to resign him long term
     
  8. Deckard

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    They have an "under the table" agreement with Brewer? How do you know that? Heck, I really like the guy and hope we manage to keep him, despite trading for McDaniels. I'm just wondering where the info came from.
     
  9. chenjy9

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    That's probably an assumption based on the fact that Brewer waived his player option, which he has no need to do unless there was a plan to sign him for a longer and cheaper contract.
     
  10. justtxyank

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    They don't have an under the table agreement to re-sign him. He agreed to waive his player option as part of the trade, but the Rockets have not guaranteed him anything about re-signing. Brewer is pretty confident I'm sure that he can get MLE money from someone again based on his play here in Houston.

    As for Ariza being the one in jeopardy, if you look at their stats, Ariza has been trending back up and Brewer has been crashing back down to Earth since the trade. Ariza was having a god awful stretch, but he's back to being a pretty good shooter again and Brewer got off to a smoking hot start but he's back to being Corey Brewer again.

    The Rockets will have flexibility in what they want to do, but Brewer can't replace Ariza in the starting lineup if he can't shoot, and outside of his hot start with us he has been a pretty bad shooter.

    I wouldn't be stunned to see him leave in FA and KJ take his role.
     
  11. Zergling

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    This trade is probably more about the future than now with Brewer. I think Brewer has to go in the offseason if we want salary space to get a 3rd star.

    Still, it's obvious McHale wasn't a big Canaan fan so we traded a zero impact player in the playoffs for someone who might be able to help us down the stretch because of his defense and athleticism.
     
  12. J.R.

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Guard KJ McDaniels on trade to Rockets: &quot;I feel like it's a great opportunity for me with them getting me. I will put in my all every day.&quot;</p>&mdash; Mark Berman (@MarkBermanFox26) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/status/568855985743224832">February 20, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>KJ McDaniels on trade to Rockets: &quot;I feel like it's a blessing to be here.I can go in &amp; learn from the veterans &amp; play my part,play defense&quot;</p>&mdash; Mark Berman (@MarkBermanFox26) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/status/568855951308038144">February 20, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>KJ McDaniels on playing w/Harden &amp; Howard: &quot;To be on a team w/the caliber of those players, it's great for me. I can learn a lot from them.&quot;</p>&mdash; Mark Berman (@MarkBermanFox26) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/status/568856035294732288">February 20, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>More KJ McDaniels:&quot;That's definitely a blessing to B on a playoff-contending team that could possibly win a ring.I feel like I can help out&quot;</p>&mdash; Mark Berman (@MarkBermanFox26) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/status/568856122695639040">February 20, 2015</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>New Rockets guard KJ McDaniels: &quot;I try to have an all-around game. I try to get better defensively. It definitely wins a lot of games.&quot;</p>&mdash; Mark Berman (@MarkBermanFox26) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/status/568856207051476992">February 20, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  13. robbie380

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    I'm curious what kind of contract Morey might be able to lock him up for. Coming to the Rockets is going to hurt his value since he won't get as much playing time. Hopefully we can get him on a cheap 4 year deal and let him develop.
     
  14. AroundTheWorld

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    KJ McDaniels might end up being a steal. I first looked at these two moves as lateral ones (still think that about the Prigioni trade and the two second round picks to New York are still a bit of a head-scratcher to me), but the more I think about it, KJ McDaniels might end up becoming a very productive player...gets very good all-around stats, especially the blocks from his position.
     
  15. robbie380

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    View from the other side



    Despite making a plethora of moves on Thursday, including trading a player who one year ago was viewed as the franchise point guard, shipping K.J. McDaniels to Houston was the trade questioned the most. The Sixers had been actively trying to seek out a trade for Michael Carter-Williams for months, and his departure seemed more like a matter of if rather than when.

    Sending McDaniels to Houston for Isaiah Canaan and a second round pick was the hardest pill to swallow, even if there were signs of him not returning next season.

    When the former Clemson standout pushed to sign a one-year contract instead of the typical four-year pact most second rounders sign, it was clear that there some roadblocks to securing his future with the Sixers. McDaniels deal was not the sign of a player looking to push his way out of Philadelphia, but rather a player who felt he was a first round talent and deserved to be paid like one.

    He started the season on an absolute tear, shooting 39.5% from beyond the arc in November, and stunning NBA fans with his wild dunks and blocks. At that point it looked like he would be the recipient of a large offer sheet from another team in the ballpark of $8 million.

    Since then, McDaniels has returned to Earth. Remain are the highlight reel dunks and blocks, but his shooting has certainly fallen off. As of the All-Star break, McDaniels was shooting just 39.9% from the floor, and 29.3% from beyond the arc. His severe offensive drop off cooled a lot of the talk of a team offering McDaniels a contract the Sixers wouldn't feel comfortable matching. Despite his sub-par numbers, his strong defense coupled with his good shooting mechanics give him the potential to be a really good 3 & D player in the NBA. He was a pretty perfect fit for the Sixers mold.

    For whatever reason, Philadelphia chose not to try and re-sign him this summer, and subsequently sent him to the Rockets. Maybe there were some issues behind the scenes (although my understanding is that McDaniels was not against staying in Philadelphia by any means, nor were there issues with teammates), but on the surface the trade makes little sense.

    The Sixers have made it clear all along that they will try and capitalize off the assets they have, and trading a player before he's about to become a free agent is understandable. Make what you can off a player in case you lose him. But for what Philadelphia got in return for McDaniels, the trade looks all the more questionable.

    Isaiah Canaan has played somewhat sparingly this season, and while he shot the ball well, he doesn't seem to be anything more than a backup point guard. And while the second round pick from Denver (via Houston) is rather high, finding NBA talent in that portion of the draft is luck more than anything. For every K.J. McDaniels, there are hundreds of other players who can't hack it at the pro level.

    Sometimes there are calculated risks in the NBA, and for the return the Sixers got, the possibility of McDaniels walking this summer was a risk worth taking. Receiving Canaan and a second round pick is not equal to the player they could have had in McDaniels.

    It's like going to a dog breeder and being told multiple families are looking at the same beautiful puppy you are. So instead of trying to get the puppy, you go to PetSmart and buy a hamster yelling, "At least I got something!".

    And because McDaniels would have been a restricted free agent this summer, the Sixers would at least have the ability to match an offer sheet rather than watching him walk off into the sunset.

    Not to mention, trading away a key piece like McDaniels strains the relationship with fans. You can try and sell the fans on whatever slogans you'd like, but eventually they need players they can connect with. Continuing to move guys who fans have grown fond of (Holiday, Carter-Williams, McDaniels) makes what this team is trying to do even tougher accept than it already is.

    How are people supposed to buy into the future when the guys who are supposed to be a part of it are here today and gone tomorrow?

    Ultimately, the only thing to do is put faith in the front office, and be patient in hoping they can put together a title contender. But trades like that of K.J. McDaniels make it that much harder to sustain said faith.
     
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    Isn't Ariza's improved shooting a result of playing less minutes per game due to Brewer?

    Baubo started a thread on that earlier...

    Harden is averaging 4.7mpg less after Brewer, Ariza 7mpg less
     
  18. Deckard

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    If there was an "under the table" agreement, I would guess it's something along the lines of "if you get injured or can't find a contract close to 1 year $5 million, we will make you whole". That's not the same as saying we will resign him.
     
  20. CertifiedTroll

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    I am completely happy with this trade. But I won't be surprised if IC blows up in 76er land.
     

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