I completely disagree. Did you watch today's game? He got hammered so many times. And when he get called for loose ball foul, it's usually because he's so damned tall and his arms happen to hang over other players, not his body. Calvin mentioned one time that since Yao's so tall, all the shot block attempts against him end up hitting his forearm. IMO, only half of those get called. Sure he gets his share of "favorable" calls like any other high profile players, but i don't think there's any NBA conspiracy.
But once you've determined that a policy of favoritism does exist for high profile players they you're halfway there to proving my theory.
Yes it will, because this discussion is on a purely subjective level now. What you saw as a foul is different than what I saw as a foul. Period. Just like you are watching your son on the court, he will have a special place in your heart and have bias for him, "Hey ref, don't you know that's MY SON out there. That was a foul! Call it!" And Dream is the same for you. You are biased FOR HIM. So, if you are watching him play and you see a play where he gets the ball stripped, you will react the same way that you would as if your kid was out there. You are being biased (favoritism) toward Dream the same way that you accuse the refs of being (against). You are a homer. So, how can you use "objective" thinking when you are being biased in favor of the Dream in the first place? So, your so called "objective evidence" is not as objective as you think it is. You're using the data and saying, "SEE! Look it proves my point." No it doesn't. Refs' calls don't live in a perfect vacuum. Black and white doesn't apply here (not race). The only way you could prove your point is if you could read the minds of the refs. By the way, this issue isn't wether or not, "Dream got more calls later in his career" it's whether or not Dream got less favoritism than Yao. Stay on track here.... If you want to talk about why Dream less calls later in career, we can talk about that later (I would have to verify that data before I engage on a debate about it).
Yes, but you disprove half you're theory at the same time, because the these high-profile players are "high-profile" because they are GOOD! They earned it. At least on the offensive end. Because that's what the people love and what sells tickets. Offense. But, if the people see a player that has so-so offensive skills, then why should he get the benefit of the doubt (ref calls) if he hasn't proven himself before?
Where do you even begin with the nbs refs? The officiating in the nba is horrific thus laughable. They miss calls on one end, then on the very next possession comes the termed 'make-up call'. What the hell is that about? It doesnt make any sense. The players hate it, and the fans hate it worse. If you miss a call, big deal, there's a foul on every possession anyway. Let them play and stop deciding the outcomes of games. They are obviously being told to show favorite to the $uper$tar$ of the league. That just hurts the game but at least its not WWF wresting yet. I think the Utah Jazz,with their whinney-asses, ruined nba basketball forever. Ever since, Johny Punkton, Jeff Hornisucks, and .....Karl Malone(no mocking nec.), began throwing themselves on the floor and throwing cheap-shot elbows at other players, they ruined basketball. You should always root against the Utah Jacka**'s for this.
so true. and I also like to see the killer instinct and mataurity from the players. the last time I saw all of those things on a team was the MJ's Bulls. hopefully Yao Ming might turn this team into a classic basketball team.
Actually this debate landed on the objective level when you stated that Dream started getting the calls later in his career. That can easily be measured by very objective statistics which I have brought to light. This is important and very relevant to the discussion because you stated that Yao gets the calls because of his offensive skills. You also state that Dream likewise started getting the calls once he developed more polished offensive skills. So to prove your point that offensively skillful players do get the calls, you need to prove that Dream did indeed start getting more calls later in his career ... this based on the criteria that YOU established (getting the calls). So, let's not discuss it later. Let's discuss it now. For your information: Dream's 1st 6 yrs: 3395 total free throw attempts out of 468 games played giving him an average of 7.25 free throw attempts per game Dream's 2nd 6 yrs: 2902 total free throw attempts out of 432 games played giving him an average of 6.71 free throw attempts per game If you want to throw in his 13th year ( the last really healthy year he had). You'll find this: 446 free throw attempts out of 78 games giving him a sickly average of 5.72 free throws per game. So, during the best years of his NBA life, when Dream was really dominating the ball for the Houston Rockets, taking more shots, dishing more assists, scoring more, basicly getting the ball more and was very much the complete focus of the team, he didn't get more calls from the refs, he got less ..... I guess the refs really are very subjective.
So I guess you're now claiming that a High-profile player is always one that has great offensive skills. I must remind you that Yao was "high-profile" before he ever set foot on the NBA court to show his offensive skills. High-profile means some one who gets much hype and lots of pub, much popularity. Take Shaq for instance. He's definitely high-profile. Although he scores a lot, I don't think he's offensively skillful, though. Of course, that's just my subjective view of things. However, you might think he's got some sweet moves in the paint. Bill Russell was high profile, but he wasn't much of an offensive player. Allen Iverson is high-profile, but I don't think shooting around 40% can be considered offensively skillful.
Allen Iverson is not consider offesnively skillful???? do u know what are u talking about?? i wonder how this guy is 6 feet short score almost 30 points a game??
I certainly do know what I'm talking about ..... You can stop wondering about how he does it: (I'll make it simple for ya) He does it by throwing up a whole heck of a lot of shots (and almost 60% of 'em don't go in the basket). ... I guess he real skillful at that
Sure man iverson is not offensively skillful yes u are right , what a joke i dunt really think there is any other player in the nba that is 6 feet who can score 30 pts a game lead his team to the confernce final, i dunt even think there is a player more skillful or qiucker than he is. iverson is one of the shortest in the nba so he is not offensive skillful but he can score so much ???!!!shooting 40 % is in the nba is consider he is one of the shortest player = very good. Just do a poll n ask ppl what they think, but everyone value is different so i dunno what u definition of a offensive skillful player.....hitting 100 percent of their shots???
Dude, I said that "I" didn't think he could be considered offensively skillful (which means it's just my opinion). Shooting 40% to score 30 points is cool and all, but it indicates that he takes a lot of bad shots (offensively skillful players, in my opinion, shouldn't take so many bad shots). But if you and everybody else in the world disagree, that's fine with me. It won't change my mind at all.
