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Rocket training staff ???

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by icewill36, Dec 16, 2010.

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  1. emjohn

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    Sadly, I knew this nimrod thread was on its way.

    This is like blaming a Down Syndrome kid's pediatrician for his lack of development.
     
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  2. tinman

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    no like Penny Hardaway.

    he went to Phoenix and was never the same player.

    the point is some people can't be fixed.

    Grant Hill was rehabbing for years and it didn't magically happen when he left to Phoenix.
     
  3. Noob Cake

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    Is very much normal human weight. Iverson is cut and athletic.
     
  4. thetatomatis

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    I have been saying this for the longest. For as much praise they get for handling injuries? They haven't prevented and maybe caused alot of these injuries. If this was not sports franchise in any other job these guys would be fired for their performance with the biggest investments in the franchise. Yearly injury lists and out of shape players.
     
  5. flamingdts

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    As much as I don't like blaming the medical staff, something is up.

    They placed a minute cap on Yao designed to prevent injury, yet somehow Yao is getting injured faster than before. Is this the conditioning of his foot? Has Yao been lacking strength in it?
     
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  6. topfive

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    I'm wondering if Yao ever actually had the high ankle sprain that we were told he had, or if they were looking at more dire possibilities all along and waited until they were certain before letting the fans and media know.
     
  7. RV6

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    if the realigment ****ed the pounding from his foot to his ankle, then that's what caused the new fracture. In other words, it would be the same situation all over again but higher up the chain. Not sure that's it,b ut it seems like it. If that's the case it wasn't a rehab issue, minute cap, conditioning, etc..
     
  8. RV6

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    humm, i guess i mispelled "shifted" ^^
     
  9. aurocketfan

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    i am just curious...didnot Yao say he's ready? and then the next day he has his ankle fractured? Either Yao is senseless of any pain or the medical staff are not doing their job.. i got the same type of injury a few years ago and there was a hell of a lot of pain in my ankle and i could barely walk.. i could be wrong, Yaos may be different..just weird.
     
  10. delta69er

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    It's not the training staff's fault that both t-mac and yao were fragile players. Some people's bodies are strong enough for taking the beating of an nba schedule while others just simply aren't.
     
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    Not to goad all the naysayers, but this staff was suspect long before Yao and T-Mac.
     
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    It's more like blaming a pediatrician for diagnosing a sprained ankle on a kid with brittle bone disease, when there should be an MRI ordered to check for a fracture also.

    Keith Jones or the training staff should have sent him out for an MRI, because Yao had a history of broken bones.
     
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    With yao's obvious history of fracture, did anybody not think to send him for an MRI after he had a major ankle spraign? Why did they have him running on a treadmill, before checking for a fracture after landing on his foot awkward?

    How did Yao's previous fracture that kept him out last season escape their minds?
     
  14. TheFreak

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    The trainers were the ones that said Yao wasn't ready to play, while Yao was claiming he was, remember? I seem to recall a lot of people ignoring that and claiming Adelman was T-Macking Yao...when was that again? Yesterday?
     
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    My primary beef would be in injury prevention. There have been too many times players have been out of shape or not fully healed and taken the court. Now, that blame is not entirely on the trainers, as the coach and the player definitely have culpability, as well. That said, the trainers are far from excused on that front.

    McGrady should have never taken the court and had to go to a third party doctor with (unbelievable) better resonance equipment than the team had to discover his injury. Inexcusable.

    Lowry came in out of shape and played minutes, only to get injured. Bonzi, as well. I'm not proposing their cardiovascular condition necessarily caused there injuries, but I do think a sit down should have occurred along with a regiments conditioning and dietary plan coupled with limited minutes until they were at near peak condition. If one was done, I certainly didn't hear about it, and I concede that possibility, but as a fan, it gives reason for concern.

    When was our last healthy season? Discounting Yao, whose injuries are structurally based, I still cannot remember the last healthy season we have enjoyed. At what point does the training staff try a new approach(es)?

    as a solution, is like to see the trainers more involved with the players year round. In a high dollar sport like the NBA, there really is not an off-season. If the staff were more involved, I'd have to believe we would see less chubby guards and injuries. I'd also like to see more hyperbaric chambers, homeopathy, etc in an attempt to avoid someone these recurring situations. Just my .02.
     
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    I don't think that was the case. I think the third party doctor didn't find any new injury, but just gave T-Mac what he thought was a better way of overcoming the pain in his knee (by using microfracture surgery to grow new cartilage). The previous doctors didn't feel that was necessary. Who knows what might have happened if T-Mac had listened to the original docs and just patiently and diligently rehabbed from the first surgery.

    I could be wrong, though. Good points on the rest of your examples.
     
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    this sounds more like the situation...
     
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    You know whats funny? Tmac didnt trust them either. Yao didnt. I dont see how they have instilled one shred of confidence in anyone who has observed them for the past decade.
     
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    there was an MRI done after the sprain and there was no fracture.
     
  20. glimmertwins

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    I'm not sure either if we are being fed a line publicly as to the extent of Yao's injury(or any Rocket player's injury for that matter) but it sure seems like the doctors on this team end up with their foot in their mouth more often than not. To have Yao sitting out this whole time under one treatment plan for a month and suddenly finding out there was a fracture there all along makes the staff look like they aren't doing their job.

    The medical staff's job is to asses injuries and determine the best course of action for recovery that is to be executed by the training staff. If they continually are missing things on the initial assessment, then the training staff is going to suck at their job too. I said this a few days ago, this is happening too frequently in this organization(remember when McGrady's doctor gave a different assesment than team doctors?) where players are getting hurt and missing more time than is expected as their are continual setbacks related to improper assessment or training(possibly one in the same).

    If there is one reputation you DON'T want to have in the NBA, it's as a city that can't take care of the well being of it's players. Maybe the Chuck Hayes of the league don't think about it as much, but you gotta think the Carmelo Anthony and Chris Pauls of the world DO care about that.

    Whether the staff has been leading us astray strategically or whether they really are that bad, either way it's a problem for the franchise.
     

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