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Rocket River's Post Harden Rockets Report

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rocket River, Jan 16, 2021.

  1. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

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    As I look at this Rocket Team I have several Thoughts.
    Now that Harden is gone . . .
    1. Thanks Harden for the years. I hope you get your championship
    this year and then the Nets go 0-82 for the next 10 years

    NOW - to the New Rockets.
    If we going young. . . GO YOUNG!!!!
    I want to start with guys I think should be moved.
    They are: Wall, Cousins, PJ, Ego, House
    This is not so much because of dislike or hatred
    -- Really just want more youngsters to check and try maybe picks

    EGO and TUCKER - I think they deserve to be moved to contenders
    This team is in rebuild and they could help the players
    become professionals but I would prefer they go
    More of a reward for services than a "get rid of them"
    PJ - Could help the Bucks/Boston/Toronto/Philly
    He is the Enforcer Giannis may need (they long but not strong)
    Ego - Indy (going home) similar to PJ
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    Wall and Cousins - Similar but I don't think they ADD
    to this team. They maybe the difference of maybe 2~4 wins
    ALSO -IMO Wall kind of held back BEAL. The second Wall
    goes out BEAL EXPLODES!!! I don't want that for Wood
    This IS NOT WALL'S TEAM!!!! IT IS WOOD'S TEAM!!!!
    TATE'S TEAM!! JONES' TEAM!! BROWN'S TEAM!!!
    Wall and Cousins are not on the same timeline
    I feel like I felt with the TMAC Trade: I felt Yao/Francis/Cuttino could have grown together
    TMac may have had more immediate upside but those three could have been special in 2 more years
    Wall is Wall. he is what he is. . . .there is no more growth IMO Same with Boogie
    Let's err on the side of growing our youth .

    House - I think he has topped out.
    Olidipo - He don't want to be here. . .then don't

    BAd game tonite but I still like Tate
    I think TATE, JONES, Brown - lock them into HOUSE type contracts
    9 over 3 years . . . let them grow together

    BMac I am ambivalent on him. He maybe like House -Topped out.

    Dunno about the new guys yet

    Wood - Tate - Brown - Jones - Nwaba - etc --> Let's move to the future.

    Rocket River
     
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    If you trade Wall, Oladipo and every player over 23, not only do you not have a leader and veteran to teach the young rookies, you also signal to Wood that this team is not about to win anything anytime soon, so he's 100% gone after 3 years.

    Sounds great in theory, but this won't work. You need veterans.
     
  3. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Wall, Gordon and Cousins aren’t going anywhere until the summer as earliest. I agree we need to go full young but I wouldn’t mind keeping guys like Wall and Gordon if we aren’t getting something decent in return. No stapling draft picks with them to unload them.
     
  4. Patience

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    It would be nice if, say, 2-3 of those 6 veterans could actually play every night. I don't understand how ALL of those guys sat out with bumps and bruises tonight, especially short handed waiting on the trade.

    Of all things, I think I may miss Harden's durability most of all. We have been spoiled to have him play almost every game for 8 years, when all these other guys are like glass.
     
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  5. Rockets4Life13

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    It's actually good for this team that they are all made out of glass. Gives the young guys playing time they normally wouldn't get. But yeah, it's kind of ridiculous that everyone is out lol. I think we're the only team so far this season to have the minimum amount of players without anyone being out for covid.
     
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    Only Gordon and Tucker need to go, especially Gordon. We are set at guard.
     
  7. Rocket River

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    I think WALL WILL GET NUMBERS
    but
    I don't think they will be much different than numbers
    (not triple doubles but good numbers )
    Westbrook was getting in OKC his last year
    Those numbers may translate to maybe 5 more wins this year
    and the next

    I don't think they are the difference between Playoffs or not
    d*mn sure not the difference between second round or not.

    Rocket River
     
  8. Vivi

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    I agree, they should move all the veterans to make a serious run at a top 4 pick, otherwise it's just going to be a waste of a season.

    It's going to be a great draft, and it's like 5 months away, we won't have to suck for a lot before we eventually get rewarded, don't be stupid and miss on the opportunity, make the right decision like the Spurs, Warriors and other smart organizations did, it's something that can single handedly change our future in a better way.

    What's even the point in trying to build around Wall, Gordon, Cousins? To have an 8th seed team for the next three years and then gift OKC 3 lottery picks in the upcoming years? No thanks.
     
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  9. Rocket River

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    Code:
    Kenyon Martin Jr. 6    SF    20    6' 6"    215 lbs    --    $898,310
    Mason Jones 9    SG    22    6' 4"    200 lbs    Arkansas    --
    Rodions Kurucs 00    SF    22    6' 9"    230 lbs    --    $1,780,152
    Chris Clemons 3    PG    23    5' 9"    180 lbs    Campbell    $1,517,981
    Brodric Thomas 33    SG    23    6' 5"    185 lbs    Truman State    --
    Sterling Brown 0    SG    25    6' 5"    219 lbs    SMU    $1,620,564
    Bruno Caboclo 5    SF    25    6' 9"    218 lbs    --    $2,028,594
    Dante Exum 1    PG    25    6' 5"    214 lbs    --    $9,600,000
    Jae'Sean Tate 8    SF    25    6' 4"    230 lbs    Ohio State    $1,445,697
    Christian Wood 35    C    25    6' 10"    223 lbs    UNLV    $13,015,873
    Danuel House Jr. 4    SF    27    6' 6"    215 lbs    Texas A&M    $3,717,000
    Ben McLemore 16    G    27    6' 3"    195 lbs    Kansas    $2,283,034
    David Nwaba 2    SG    28    6' 5"    219 lbs    Cal Poly    $1,824,003
    Victor Oladipo 4    SG    28    6' 4"    210 lbs    Indiana    $21,000,000
    DeMarcus Cousins 15    C    30    6' 10"    270 lbs    Kentucky    $1,620,564
    John Wall 1    PG    30    6' 3"    210 lbs    Kentucky    $41,254,920
    Eric Gordon 10    SG    32    6' 3"    215 lbs    Indiana    $16,869,276
    P.J. Tucker 17    PF    35    6' 5"    245 lbs    Texas    $7,969,537
    
    THE BLUE - Borderline on our Timeframe
    Oladipo - if he wants to stay I think will be good with Wood
    NWaba - He needs to improve his shot if he wants to be in the Rotation

    The RED - Don't expect to be here next year if at all possible.
    Wall maybe untradable. Will he be a good mentor? Dunno yet
    Cousins - Gone Next year
    EGO - Gone next year
    PJ - Gone next year

    Just a spot to Document and look at the full Roster in one spot.

    Rocket River
     
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    Everybody that is older than 26 that makes over 8 million needs to go. Make Tilman great again! Get the man another yacht!!
     
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  11. mac_got_this

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    Nwaba is older than BMac..... i don’t want to go all full youth. I agree with trade Gordon. Wall is basically impossible to trade without attaching an asset and we not bout to do that. So Gordon is the odd man out. wall minutes need to be capped at 32. We dont need him playing nearly 40 minutes a game unless it’s double OT.

    keep cousins because we still need another big to help Wood.

    trade Tucker. We have Kurucs, let evaluate him. Can’t do that with him on the bench.

    trade Bmac I want versatility over one dimensional. Nwaba does a lil bit of everything beside shooting

    send KJ to gleague. Too raw to enjoy at this point.
     
  12. Downtown Sniper

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    TL;dr

    Is anyone in the team fat yet?
     
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  13. HP3

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    Tank for Cunningham. Give Mason more playing time. Developers Broderick Thomas. Woods and Tate are gone in 3 years imo to places who will pay them and/or give them more money. We are not getting someone to sign here.
     
  14. ThatBoyNick

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    Nicks report

    Trade - Wood, Dipo, Tucker, House, Mac for picks and fillers

    Waive Cousins, Clemons

    Tank hard for that top 4 pick

    keep Wall/Gordon unless some team is willing to take them for neutral value

    Target underrated FA’s like Wood to sign and flip for picks.

    Keep tanking in 2022/23

    Come 2023 Wall/Gordon are expiring, and we have 3 top 4 picks, hope one of our picks was a home run, start signing players to build around our new core.
     
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  15. HP3

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    This is the saddest timeline but the smartest timeline as well.
     
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  16. GTO

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    Nope.
     
  17. HP3

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    Yes, why does everyone want to be a middling team so bad
     
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  18. Rocket River

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    Still strong on the Youth Movement!

    Rocket River
     
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    Hold up. Wall held back Beal to do what, trying to be a Harden clone? I think we all know that is not what makes a team win games when it counts and in the Wizards case (can't even win games to get to the playoffs). Playoffs 4 out of 5 years with Wall. Nothing without him since.
     
  20. D-rock

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    Clemons and Bruno should be removed from your list.

    You need to add Kevin Porter Jr. SG 6'4 20 years old.
     
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