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Robertson called for the assassination of Venezuela's president

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by No Worries, Aug 22, 2005.

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  1. No Worries

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    Pat Robertson's Greatest Hits
    http://norbizness.com/archives/001237.html

    (1) "What we need is for somebody to place a small nuke at Foggy Bottom [headquarters of the State Department]"

    (2) On gay days at Disneyworld: "I would warn Orlando that you're right in the way of some serious hurricanes, and I don't think I'd be waving those flags in God's face if I were you, This is not a message of hate -- this is a message of redemption. But a condition like this will bring about the destruction of your nation. It'll bring about terrorist bombs; it'll bring earthquakes, tornadoes, and possibly a meteor."

    (3) "Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history."

    (4) "You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war." (bonus church sign here.)

    (5) "[Planned Parenthood] is teaching kids to fornicate, teaching people to have adultery, every kind of bestiality, homosexuality, lesbianism -- everything that the Bible condemns."

    (6) Feminism is a "socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians."

    (7) “Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson accused President Bush of ‘undermining a Christian, Baptist president to bring in Muslim rebels’ by asking Liberian President Charles Taylor, recently indicted for war crimes, to step down.”

    (8) "One justice is 83 years old, another has cancer and another has a heart condition. Would it not be possible for God to put it in the minds of these three judges that the time has come to retire?"

    (8a) "Well they can interpret it any way they want to. I'm talking to God, and it's up to Him to make a decision and if some of these folks don't like what I'm praying for and want to pray the other way -- have at it! Let the Lord decide."

    (9) Robertson purchased rights from Mobutu to dredge for diamonds in a remote portion of the Zaire river near Tshikapa. Diamond mining is an expensive proposition... In a cost-cutting move, Pat ferried his cargo aboard planes owned by Operation Blessing, a tax-exempt charity of Robertson's working to deliver medical supplies.

    (10) "You say you're supposed to be nice to the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians and the Methodists and this, that, and the other thing. Nonsense. I don't have to be nice to the spirit of the Antichrist. I can love the people who hold false opinions but I don't have to be nice to them."

    And, just narrowly being nudged out of the top 10, because it's rather implied by the other atrocities, is "[Separation of church and state] was never in the Constitution. However much the liberals laugh at me for saying it, they know good and well it was never in the Constitution! Such language only appeared in the constitution of the communist Soviet Union." Plus he farts a lot and blames it on Satan's dog.
     
    #61 No Worries, Aug 24, 2005
  2. arno_ed

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    Did this guy really say all those thing No worries???
    There are some really stupid people in the world.(i do not know the guy, but he sounds like an idiot.)
     
    #62 arno_ed, Aug 24, 2005
  3. No Worries

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    It must be true. I read it on the internet.
     
    #63 No Worries, Aug 24, 2005
  4. wnes

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    Shall we conduct a poll here on Clutch BBS to see how many are followers of Pat Robertson?
     
    #64 wnes, Aug 24, 2005
  5. tigermission1

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    I am sorry, but the WH reponse to this is WEAK. I am glad some assistant or spokesman for the State Dept said something about it, but that is anything BUT a 'rebuke'.

    I would like to hear the Bush 'inner circle' to actually take half a minute out of their time to denounce what extremists in their party say and do, and this isn't the first time that they haven't rebuked stupid/insensitive comments or remarks made by strong supporters/figures of their party. When you don't make an effort to rebuke what someone says, people will either guess that you support them or somewhat agree with them.

    I don't understand why Bush cares anyways about the extremist right, he's in his second term, it isn't like he needs to be re-elected.

    Ahh well, this applies to Democrats, Christians, Muslims, Atheists, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, secularists, whatever...
     
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    Yup, that's affirmative...

    He said more kookoo stuff, but really you expect it from the likes of him and Falwell.

    The best part is Robertson saying that we should assassinate Chavez in order to prevent his country becoming a launching-pad for...MUSLIM EXTREMISTS!!!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

    I have NEVER laughed as hard or as long as I did when I first heard that. Apparently, Catholic Venezuela has been overtaken by Muslim extremists and will become the new base for Al-Qaida operations.

    CLASSIC material, no really...
     
    #66 tigermission1, Aug 24, 2005
  7. FranchiseBlade

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    This is a case where we have an extremist cleric and religious fanatic calling for the assassination of democratically elected govt. leaders of sovereign foreign nations.

    What are we doing about it? For those that wanted the Muslims to police their own, I would like to see some similar outrage here.
     
    #67 FranchiseBlade, Aug 24, 2005
  8. wnes

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    In light of no condemnation of the terrorist remarks by Pat Robertson from the Traditional Values Coalition, the Family Research Council and the Christian Coalition, these organizations, by virture of their associations with Pat Robertson, are terrorist sympathizers and terrorist supporters, and so are their followers.
     
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    Is the 700 club and christian coalition considered tax exempt organizations? If so, they should have that status pulled.
     
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    Thas "innernets"
     
    #70 mc mark, Aug 24, 2005
  11. MadMax

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    i hear ya.

    what can we do?
     
    #71 MadMax, Aug 24, 2005
  12. FranchiseBlade

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    I wonder if there is a way under anti-terror legislation to get the tax exempt status removed. Perhaps writing to congressment requesting this would be good, but even more importantly I think there needs to be a strong public campaign denouncing this as being something that is against the principles of Christianity.

    For the record I did see a Priest on television last night doing just that, I just think these kinds of efforts in the public eye will help remove the stain this clown has left on the cloth of our religion.

    At this time the stain hasn't set in and is non-permenant I hope. :D
     
    #72 FranchiseBlade, Aug 24, 2005
  13. MadMax

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    Where I have a voice, I can let people know what Christ is truly about. Of course, then I'm evangelizing. :D

    I'm betting the 700 Club isn't a tax-exempt group...but I could be wrong. I'm pretty sure that the Christian Coalition isn't tax-exempt, because it's nothing more than a lobbying group, as I understand it.
     
    #73 MadMax, Aug 24, 2005
  14. rhester

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    I think the proper statement would be- let's pray for ______________.

    I don't know that much about Pat Robertson but-
    That was a stupid statement to make.

    Not the first time either-

    "U.S. Backs Assassination of Saddam
    By Joseph Curl and Dave Boyer
    The Washington Times | October 2, 2002


    The White House yesterday backed the assassination of Saddam Hussein by the Iraqi people, saying "the cost of one bullet" to take out the Iraqi dictator would achieve the goal of regime change more quickly and cheaply than a U.S. attack.

    White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said the ouster of Saddam "is welcome in whatever form it takes," noting that several other options — including exile — are less expensive than war, which Congress estimates would cost as much as $13 billion just to begin.

    "I can only say that the cost of a one-way ticket is substantially less than that. The cost of one bullet, if the Iraqi people take it on themselves, is substantially less than that. The cost of war is more than that.

    "But there are many options that the president hopes the world and people of Iraq will exercise themselves," he said. "Never underestimate the yearning of people to stop being tortured, to stop being suppressed."

    Although Mr. Fleischer said "this is not a statement of administration policy," he added, "that if the Iraqis took matters in their own hands, no one around the world would shed a tear."

    The stark words came just hours after President Bush criticized a proposed Iraq resolution on Capitol Hill and also called for a tough, new resolution from the United Nations "in order for us to make it clear to the world — and to Saddam Hussein, more importantly — that you must disarm."

    As both the United Nations and Congress neared votes on resolutions authorizing force to deal with Saddam and his weapons of mass destruction, Mr. Bush criticized the first draft of a Senate version of his Iraq war resolution."

    "Saturday, October 23, 2004, The Guardian (UK), in an editorial -
    On November 2, the entire civilised world will be praying, praying Bush loses. And Sod's law dictates he'll probably win, thereby disproving the existence of God once and for all. The world will endure four more years of idiocy, arrogance and unwarranted bloodshed, with no benevolent deity to watch over and save us. John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley Jr - where are you now that we need you?"

    "Published: Thursday, March 13, 2003 Vheadline.com
    Bylined to: Robert Rudnicki

    Media called for the assassination of President Hugo Chavez Frias

    During a trip to Bogota Colombia, Venezuela's Foreign (MRE) Minister Roy Chaderton Matos has accused the media of trying to promote an assassination attempt of President Hugo Chavez Frias. According to the Minister evidence exists of such a plan.

    "I have here with me a series of evidence in which the Venezuelan and some foreign mass media in the hemisphere have made calls for the assassination of the President of Venezuela."

    The Foreign Minister also accused the Venezuelan opposition "supported by the media" of encouraging an attempt on the President's life.

    The comments came after Chaderton arrived in Colombia for talks with the region's other Foreign Ministers. During the visit the Minister is also expected to discuss a presidential level summit with Colombian counterpart in a bid to resolve the tensions that have built up of the past few weeks. "
     
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    U.S. evangelist backs off Chavez assassination call
    Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:28 PM ET

    WASHINGTON, Aug 24 (Reuters) - Conservative U.S. evangelist Pat Robertson, who called for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, said on Wednesday he was misinterpreted and there were a number of ways to "take him out" including kidnapping.

    "I said our special forces could take him out. Take him out could be a number of things including kidnapping," Robertson said on his "The 700 Club" television program.

    "There are a number of ways of taking out a dictator from power besides killing him. I was misinterpreted," Robertson added.

    Robertson, the founder of the Christian Coalition and a presidential candidate in 1988, said on Monday of Chavez, one of Bush's most vocal critics: "If he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it."

    "We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability." He made the comments during his "The 700 Club" television program.

    U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld on Tuesday dismissed Robertson's remarks, but the White House remained silent despite calls for repudiation from Venezuela and religious leaders including the Rev. Jesse Jackson. State Department spokesman Sean McCormack called "without fact and baseless" any ideas of hostile action against Chavez or Venezuela.

    The leftist Chavez has often accused the United States of plotting his overthrow or assassination. Alongside Cuban President Fidel Castro in Havana on Sunday, Chavez scoffed at the idea that he and Castro were destabilizing troublemakers.

    Chavez survived a short-lived coup in 2002 that he says was backed by the United States. Washington denies involvement.

    Venezuelan officials said Robertson's remarks, while those of a private citizen, took on more significance given his ties to President George W. Bush's Christian-right supporters.

    "Mr Robertson has been one of this president's staunchest allies. His statement demands the strongest condemnation by the White House," Venezuela's ambassador to the United States Bernardo Alvarez said.

    © Reuters 2005. All Rights Reserved.
     
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    You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war. And I don't think any oil shipments will stop. But this man is a terrific danger and the United ... This is in our sphere of influence, so we can't let this happen. We have the Monroe Doctrine, we have other doctrines that we have announced. And without question, this is a dangerous enemy to our south, controlling a huge pool of oil, that could hurt us very badly. We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with.

    Pat Robertson is a lying sack of sh*t.
     
    #77 No Worries, Aug 24, 2005
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    :) :) :)
     
    #78 No Worries, Aug 24, 2005
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    I could have told you that :)
     
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  20. MadMax

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    i think YOU just did! :) and so will i, right now:

    dude, you're lying.
     
    #80 MadMax, Aug 24, 2005
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