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Robertson called for the assassination of Venezuela's president

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by No Worries, Aug 22, 2005.

  1. bnb

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    should the 'neocons' start posting some of Al Sharpton's best quips?

    Why does anybody care what Robertson says?
     
  2. MadMax

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    i don't think his influence is nearly as large as many suspect it is.
     
  3. pirc1

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    I don't think anyone will deny a significant percentage of the US population agree with him in many area. I could even see one day someone like him get elected to the office of president under the right conditions. He would make Bush look like a great president.
     
  4. MadMax

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    i disagree entirely. liberals can't stand him. moderates are frightened by him. and my bet is the majority of American Christians would find his comments problematic, at best.

    i can tell you that one Christian radio program I've listened to was all over him about his claims of "prophecy" of 9/11...and his claims that he knew God's purposes for 9/11 in those days.
     
  5. losttexan

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    This guy is the leader of a Christian coalition?

    I know I haven't been to Sunday school in a while but I don't remember any talk of assonating heads of state being a Christian doctrine.
     
  6. wnes

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    To Pat Robertson's credit, once on TV I saw him endorsing China's one-child policy and not resorting to the usual anti-abortion rhetorics.
     
  7. MadMax

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    wow, another reason i dislike him. ;)
     
  8. MadMax

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    i think Jesus meant to get to it during the Sermon on the Mount, but he just ran out of time.
     
  9. No Worries

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    Comedy is where you find it. Out of one side of his mouth Robertson says the ten commandments should be in courthouses (with that little diddy "thou shall not kill") and out of the other side of his mouth that Chavez should get whacked by assassins paid with your tax dollars.

    Seriously though, I have mantained that the Dems could use Robertson et al as a wedge issue with moderate Conservative (by reminding them how extreme the Christian Coalition can be) and to some extent conservative Christians (by making them so disgusted with their leaders that they do not go to the polls).
     
  10. Rockets2K

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    agree with Max....no way does Robertson EVER get the kind of support he would need for major political office.

    Libs would never vote for him...no way
    Moderates are scared of him and what he might do if given that kind of power...I know cause I am a moderate and most of my friends are also.
    The religious conservs I know are embarrassed by him every time he opens his mouth on anything political.

    there is just no way he ever gets enough support.

    on this subject...Communism is basically dead..it's influence will shrink in the future imo..not grow..the only commie regime in 10 years will be N Korea..China will eventually grow away from it as the free market pressures of the up and coming generation come into their own. The only other possibility is Cuba, and as soon as Castro dies...Id bet that will sound the death knell for communism in Cuba.
     
  11. wouldabeen23

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    hehehe...Now Max, that is CLEARLY in his message from Leviticus...oh wait, wrong covenant--silly me!
     
  12. Grizzled

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    I just had to pop in quickly to go on record as saying that I find what Robertson said shocking and morally repugnant in the extreme. I may only be stating the absolutely obvious but from my perspective there is no Christian justification for this at all. From a practical standpoint this is a very serious matter as well. Following through with his rationale, Robertson has essentially justified the assassination of Bush. If this administration has any sense they will denounce this immediately and forcefully.
     
  13. RocketMan Tex

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    And piss off their core base of support? No chance!
     
  14. Deckard

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    Totally agree. In a lot of countries, calling for the murder of someone might land you in jail for, at the very least, a lengthy interrogation. Mr. Robertson is lucky to be an American living in the United States.

    What would happen to an American who advocated what Robertson has, but aiming his blather at the President?

    Think about it. If the Bush Administration doesn't denounce Robertson's statement in the strongest possible terms, then they are advocating the killing of heads of state by their very silence, in my opinion. I would like to see how anyone who's a Bush supporter, or anyone else, could disagree with that statement. And you can't say, "Well, the President can't respond to every nut case out there who makes a crazy statement." This is one of the President's most influential and well known supporters. I don't see how silence can be an option.

    By the way, this has nothing to do, from my perspective, about Chavez, the elected President of Venezuela. I can't stand the guy.


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  15. glynch

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    Careful. Deckard !!!!!
     
  16. Saint Louis

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    Seems like Pat has been reading a little too much Old Testament and not enough New Testament.
     
  17. MadMax

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    http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/3321941

    U.S. distances itself from Robertson's remarks
    Associated Press

    WASHINGTON — The Bush administration swiftly and unequivocally distanced itself today from a suggestion by religious broadcaster Pat Robertson that American agents assassinate Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, a frequent target of U.S. foreign policy.

    Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, appearing at a Pentagon news conference, said when asked: "Our department doesn't do that kind of thing. It's against the law. He's a private citizen. Private citizens say all kinds of things all the time."

    Acknowledging differences with the Caracas government, and saying it should be promoting democracy in the Western Hemisphere, State Department spokesman Sean McCormack called Robertson's remarks "inappropriate."

    "This is not the policy of the United States government. We do not share his views," McCormack said in a flat refutation of Robertson's suggestion that the United States "take out" Chavez to stop Venezuela from becoming a "launching pad for communist influence and Muslim extremism."

    "This is not the policy of the United States," the spokesman said.

    In Caracas, Vice President Jose Vicente Rangel called Robertson's statement criminal and terrorist. "The ball is in the U.S. court," he said.

    Robertson, 75, is a founder of the Christian Coalition of America and a supporter of President Bush, who was elected twice with the solid backing of Christian conservatives.

    "I would think that people around the world would take the comments for what they are," McCormack said. "They are the expression of one citizen."

    The United States was believed in the past to have been involved in the assassination in 1963 of South Vietnam President Ngo Binh Diem and attempts to assassinate Fidel Castro of Cuba.

    Political assassination was put off-limits by former President Gerald R. Ford in an executive order in the mid-1970s.

    Rumsfeld said he knew of no consideration ever having been given to assassinating Chavez.

    "Not to my knowledge and I would think I would have knowledge," Rumsfeld said.

    McCormack said, "Any accusations or any idea that we are planning to take hostile action against Venezuela or the Venezuelan government — any ideas in that regard — are totally without fact and baseless."

    The spokesman said the administration had urged Venezuela "to play a positive role in the hemisphere" and to have "an open, transparent and positive relationship that you would have between two sovereign states anywhere around the world."
     
  18. AggieRocket

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    You really can't expect much more from the White House. They condemned Robertson's statement adequately. Kudos to them.
     
  19. Deckard

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    Very good response. It got the level of attention that it deserved. Robertson is a flake.



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  20. vlaurelio

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    can somebody photoshop pat robertson with OBL look speaking from a cave?
     

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