Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Is Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

Are you suggesting that the Democratic memo is just some hastily written napkin document? Why is it meaningless? Schiff and others on the Dem side have consistently characterized the Nune's memo as partisan and misleading.

 

LOL. Why is it so important that we can't wait to release the Nune's memo......? Would Trump even allow the Democratic memo to be viewed if it was voted on in the House..... Hmmmmmmm?

Just admit it, the GOP is trying to further steer the narrative and discredit Mueller.

 

I want them to be consistent. They can either declassify both memos or neither of the memos.

You are the one that was so certain there was nothing at all in Schiff's memo. Then you act like people are crazy for suggesting the GOP should release it. If there is nothing at all in it, why wouldn't they release it?

 

If it had meaning, Schiff would want it made public. He doesn't , thats why he's not letting those who would vote to make it public see it. He could of shown it to the entire house intelligence committee weeks ago. IT would of been voted on today. HE didn't.

Because Schiff hasn't let them read it. Nunes let everyone read his for a week.

 

LOL. Now we are moving the goal posts..... Maybe Schiff simply misplayed this memo ordeal and never got his memo out in enough time? Schiff and the House Dems have been saying Nune's memo was misleading for about week or so, maybe they thought the House GOP on committee wouldn't actually release and just talk about it.

You can assume what you want, but it is fact that Nune's memo has been characterized as misleading and out of context by House Dems on the committee.

Look, your side won the memo battle and your reward is to further your narrative.

 

you just showed a democrat congressman saying he read it....

you said the memo would make trump look like a 'crook'. this seems like a contradiction of your above statement.

 

Why would they need to read it if it was so meaningless? Schiff didn't present his because his preference was that no classified information be released. It is only once that the GOP was determined to release their memo, that he decided it would only make sense to author their own memo and have that memo come to light.

 

because it could have classified information that shoudlnt be released.

THe GOP released their memo to all house members weeks ago. Schiff could of done the same. Also he could of showed his memo to just the house intel committe who already have access to the same classified material he does. HE chose not to show it to just the republicans. He showed it to democrats. You are getting dooped.

 

Sorry but I gotta jump in on this one to clear up the facts. Do you even pay attention to the actual facts or just make your own?

Nunes has not viewed THE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS.

Schiff has. Two of Nunes’ staffers have, and Trey Gowdy has.

Yes... Nunes has shared THE MEMO with other members of the House, but the memo is just Nunes interpretation of the classified documents he hasn’t even seen.... because of the obvious(when corrections come later he can blame the staffers).

Also the Democrats minority report is being shared with the FBI and DOJ first to ensure it’s accurate before release. That’s not what Nunes has allowed. Wray only saw the memo today and was not allowed to bring back to the FBI for redactions.

So your facts here seem to be misleading at best or you are just confused about the difference in Nunes’ memo and the classified documents.

The worst part about all of this is the same folks like yourself who have been screaming from rooftops for 3 years about Hillary’s careless of classified information are actively promoting transparent partisan weaponization of classified information for what purpose..???... for the purpose of giving Donald Trump runway to close down the investigation of himself. (The memo paints Rosenstein as a villain apparently, and Rosenstein oversees the Mueller investigation).

Just take a look in the mirror tonight and bask in your role in helping chip away at the norms of the rule of law. Yes you are just a blogger on a Houston sports forum, but nonetheless, you are playing a part.

And for what...??... for the love of Donald F-ing Trump. Is this really worth it to you? Is this fight really worth what you’ll have to recall years later when we have to look back at this turning point?

(Also I hope to God I’m wrong and I’m over reacting.)

 

yes he has. Though I have no idea what you are calling 'the classified documents'. How could you forget this:



He's also had access to everything released from the horowitz investigation.

 

Gee, if your going to call people stupid for being duped, at least spell duped correctly...

 

Haha. In this video he says it himself “until I get the information I’ve requested”.

Schiff and Mike Quigley have stated just in the last hour that Nunes has not seen “the underlying documents”. They both said that two staffers went to view them to help Nunes write the memo.

There are two things we are talking about that I believe you are either confused about or are intentionally trying to confuse people about.

-one is classified documents containing things like the FISA court order to survey Carter Page, intercepts, etc.

-the other is the “Nunes Memo” that is about to be released in the next few days. This memo is an Interpretation of these classified documents that will be painting the FBI and DOJ as villains so Trump can continue to purge the government and shut down the investigation.

Nunes’ MEMO has been deemed “extremely reckless” by Trumps own appointed DOJ officials because even if the underlying classified documents are not in the memo, the interpretations will ultimately reveal sources and methods.

Not sure why this is so hard to understand.

And Nunes not himself viewing the documents makes perfect sense. He’s already had his hand slapped once for publicly disclosing classified info. That’s his way of protecting himself by having staffers be an intermediary so he’s not liable in this case if the DOJ and FBI later redact and this act comes around to bite them in the arse.

 

If it does have classified information, then it would be hard to say it was definitely meaningless.

 

THe nature of the Nunes memo is the FISA warrants. Nunes in the interview I posted also mentions spying on Trump's transition team. Page and Manafort were not on the transition team.

You mean the DOJ which the IG report and the Nunes memo show in a very bad light?

 

This is the same Nunes that had to semi-recuse himself from the committee because he was basically using it to run cover for Trump. And you think the DoJ and FBI look bad? LOL

 

Give it up Tallanvor.

You don’t know the subject matter well enough to have an informed opinion on this topic.

This reeks of continued musical chairs from the Republicans in an effort to discredit everyone involved in investigating Donald Trump. When you can’t discredit the message, discredit the messenger.

 

I just said that the report will show that Trump appointed Rosenstein will be painted as a villain because of a FISA warrant on Carter Page... you know the Carter Page who was recruited by Russian spies as an asset?

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/04/...p-russia.html?referer=https://www.google.com/

Yes... this memo will attack the DOJ. Especially Rosenstein who oversees the Mueller investigation.

There is an IG report coming out about McCabe and his handling of the Clinton investigation. I believe you might be confusing the two. I’m not aware of an IG report on abuses in spying by Trumps own DOJ on Trump officials.

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To your first point, Nunes is referring to intercepts of Flynn discussing sanctions with Russians. This is a separate scandal concocted by Nunes regarding unmasking by Susan Rice.

The memo reportedly focuses on the FISA warrant to continue to spy on Carter Page that Rosenstein signed off on.

Again... this is what Nunes and Trump TV do... they mix up different made up scandals in some conspiracy cocktail that makes separate situations look like a pattern of conspiracy by discussing two and sometimes three different issues in one statement just to confuse and conflate for political purposes.

Basically Nunes think people like you are dumb and won’t actually stop for a second to get the facts straight.

Wear that badge with pride.

 

And? Did he say when it was read or produced? Would it have time go through the complete process? Would Trump even allow the Dem memo to be seen? Can you speculate on that for me?

Not at all. This will just release more details about why the people Trump choose to run his campaign and associate were targeted. The GOP and Trump just get to spin the narrative their way first.

 

You mean the transition team who used the government servers to communicate?