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Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Is Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, May 17, 2017.

  1. cml750

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    If the report says exactly what you state here it still does not change the conclusion.
     
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    It may not change the conclusion, but would that change what we know happened and believe about what happened? I think it would, or at least should. The story would change.
     
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    But it does hurt the credibility of those who claimed it was all a hoax and was a media hit job.
     
  5. dmoneybangbang

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    We already know that the collusion charge didn’t meet the legal threshold of proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

    What we want is to see the evidence and how Trump and his associates conducted themselves. I would imagine it won’t paint a flattering picture of how Trump and associates conducted their business. The report will move from the realm of legality to the realm of public opinion.... assuming Trump doesn’t hide behind execute privilege and buries it.
     
  6. dachuda86

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    BS. Parts of the public will continue to peddle conspiracy theories because of partisan bias. Court of public opinion is for people without evidence after one of the most high stakes FBI inveatigations lol. Get out of here.
     
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    Lol.... and we need to see the report to see what the evidence of how Trump and associates conducted themselves is....

    Barr merely stated that collusion didn’t meet the legal requirement, not that Trump act appropriately and the entire investigation was a hoax. It’s the right wing media that is pushing the “hoax narrative” without seeing how Trump acted.
     
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    Of course it would. Because you desperately want to believe all the stories and innuendo that was offered up as fact for the last 2 years by MSNBC, NBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, NYT, WaPo, New Yorker, Slate, HuffPo, Buzzfeed, Vox, etc etc. I get it....its hard to believe when your echo chamber turned out to be so wrong that you want to clutch on to ANY slight bit of doubt as to keep from being embarrassed.

    And that's exactly what will happen when the report is released. Lefties will comb over it with a fine toothed comb until they find things they can blow up into some huge faux scandal while claiming there are some unanswered question(s) or suspicious activity, or lack of effort in investigation, or suspicion of obstruction (etc etc) that will of course have some innocent explanation that they will refuse to believe. This will be the face saving maneuver that allows TDS to continue in the minds of conspiracy theorists with legitimacy. The Loose Change folks of 2019.
     
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    It didn't meet the legal definition... say that again and think about it. What does that tell you? Fat chance in hell you ever give up on your conspiracy theory.
     
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    Based on Barr’s report, it tells me there’s evidence of conspiracy but not enough evidence to take to court. If there was no evidence Barr would have said so and he cleary didn’t.

    Release the report and let the public see how Trump and his associates acted. As Schiff said, maybe some folks are okay with how Trump acted. Perhaps others have higher standards for the president of the US than you do.

    Clinton was never found guilty of anything and yet you still think she’s dirty....
     
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    Clinton never had the FBI shove a microscope up her ass. Your bias is showing man. Trump is exonerated until proven otherwise. I will consider anymore Russia stuff a conspiracy theory. I won't tell you you can't believe in a conspiracy theory but don't get mad when people want solid proof. I have a higher bar for proof, especially when Trump's opposition has a motive to push this conspiracy theory.
     
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    lulz

    Anyways, just reading potential positive news on China trade war and I'm glad Mueller didn't rush forth charges.

    **** would've gone down for the next two years that would've made the nation even weaker.
     
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    Actually, she was thoroughly investigated by the FBI. We have proof about What Trump and his campaign did do with Russia. It may not be a prosecutable crime, but we know at least some of the things they did and about which they lied.
     
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    Lol actually she did with the emails and James Comey (director of the fbi)..... already forgot that huh? The GOP had plenty of motive in that case and I wondered where you stood then. I wonder if the GOP will be outraged over the emails by Jared and Ivanka.... doubtful...

    I have no problem admitting that I don’t think Trump is fit for office. If your bar for the president of the US is merely “meeting the legal requirements of beyond reasonable doubt” then that’s your position. Cleary given Trump’s trustworthiness public rating, many people have high standards.
     
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    Either trump did do something against the law or he didn't. And either trump did something unethical or he didn't. You seem worried that the report will show that he did do something against the law... that he did act unethically. Seems to me not breaking the law and not acting unethically shouldn't be too high a bar for the president of the United States.
     
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    And the report would go a long ways corroborating those stories...

    Would you change your position if some stories from the leftist media were corroborated by the report?
     
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    You might be concerned about your side’s integrity if the report is released and it’s all not a “hoax” and “fabrication”.
     
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    That was a farce and we actually know she broke the law and no charges were filed. She got VIP treatment. Not exactly the same level of investigation and not exactly a "microscope" up her ass. Instead she got off because she is an ex presidents wife and connected as hell. It is less than a feeling or suspicion.
     

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