Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Is Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

Yep, and Flynn provided proof of actual Kompromat (i.e. COLLUSION). He also implicated members of the Trump campaign/transition team, and is providing info on 3 different investigations, having been summoned 19 times. He should be seeing a lot of jail time. The fact that he is getting off "Scott Free" means that Mueller has the goods. Awful night for Trump.

Mueller suggesting 0 jail time is a direct counter to Trump's pardon dangling.

 

We all would but we know that he won't he has shown that all he does is lie.

 

this is pretty big news even with much of it redacted.

this thread needs the tweets from @NewRoxFan

 

Like cohen, flynn put his family and country first.

Unlike stone put trump, racists, and his own pocket first

 

Spot on. It's a bad night for Trump and Trumptards lol.

 

The Flynn sentencing recommendation is a mixed signal. Is Mueller saying something Stone, Trump, or someone else?

 

Did Trump tweet something unhinged yet as a reaction to this bad news? Or will that come in the morning?

 

It's probably not much really, but its endemic of what they're doing. They present unconnected dots like indicting people in russia who will never face trials, manafort of something he did years ago, just flood people with quantity and no quality, then people connect them themselves and that connection is whatever they want to believe it is. But no one presents you with unconnected dots if they can connect them themselves other than fiction authors

He presented a document that said criminal investigation and redacted everything else, and people have jumped to how many conclusions? redaction therefore trump isn't a conclusion, it's a delusion, one they know people will have.

If he has some sort of connection then so be it, but so far, there hasn't been anything

 

Oh so you are an active FBI agent that holds access to a top secret clearance to view the inner workings of Mueller's investigation?

That's neat but I would recommend that if you do hold such a position that leaking information on a NBA message board might jepordize your career.

The rest of us civil can only go by the plethora of circumstantial evidence that is out in the public.

He did all of the below and still got recommended a light sentence. You bet your ass he did.

"April 2014 — Flynn is fired as director of the Defense Intelligence Agency ("abusive with staff, didn't listen, worked against policy, bad management, etc." per Colin Powell).
Oct. 2014 — Flynn founds Flynn Intel Group. In a letter from the DIA, Flynn is warned that he is prohibited from receiving "consulting fees, gifts, travel expenses, honoraria, or salary ... from a foreign government unless congressional consent is first obtained".
Summer 2015 — Flynn is paid by ACU Strategic Partners to travel to the Middle East to promote a trillion-dollar Saudi-financed U.S.–Russian business to develop nuclear power capabilities in the Arab world. Flynn does not disclose this trip when applying for his security clearance renewal in Jan. 2016
Late Summer 2015 — Flynn begins advising the Trump campaign.
Aug. 2015 — Flynn receives a $15,000 speaking fee from Volga-Dnepr Airlines, a Russian airfreight company that the U.N. had suspended from its list of approved vendors after a corruption scandal involving an indicted Russian U.N. official.
Oct. 2015 — Flynn receives a $15,000 speaking fee from a subsidiary Kaspersky Lab. Ruslan Stoyanov, head of Kaspersky's computer incidents investigation unit is arrested in Russia, for treason, in December 2016.
Flynn travels to Saudi Arabia to again promote the Saudi/Russian nuclear project. He fails to disclose the nature of the travel and reports a fictional hotel name as his residence during the trip.
Dec. 2 — Flynn and his son meet with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak at his Washington, D.C. residence. In a subsequent email to the Russian embassy, Flynn’s son described the meeting as “very productive”. The meeting came to light publicly only in April 2018.
Dec. 10 — Seated directly at Vladimir Putin's right hand, Flynn appears in Moscow at a gala hosted by Kremlin-controlled propaganda outlet Russia Today (RT). RT pays Flynn $45,000 for his participation and provides airfare, accommodations and other expenses for Flynn and his son.
U.S. intelligence notices an uptick in communication between Flynn and Kislyak shortly after.
Feb. 2016 — Flynn increases his role with the Trump campaign and is later vetted as a possible VP pick.
Feb. 11 — While applying for renewal of his security clearance, Flynn tells Pentagon investigators that he had received no income from foreign companies and had only “insubstantial contact” with foreign nationals.
May 2016 — Flynn joins the advisory board of OSY Technologies, part of the NSO Group, a secretive cyberweapons dealer founded by former Israeli intelligence officials. NSO's spyware is subsequently found to have been used to attack and surveil prominent journalists and human rights activists.
July 18 — Flynn leads crowds at the Republican National Convention in chants of "Lock her up!", saying "if I did a tenth of what she did, I would be in jail today!".
Aug. 9 — Flynn signs a contract with Inovo, a firm owned by Ekim Alptekin, a close ally and appointee of Turkey’s president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Flynn is assigned to run an influence campaign to discredit Fethullah Gulen, a Turkish cleric who lives in Pennsylvania and was blamed by Erdogan for a failed coup.
Summer 2016 — Flynn Intel begins work on a pro-Turkey documentary, hiring professionals to shoot it, misleading them about the intentions of the project and working to conceal its role in producing the film.
Aug. 17 — Flynn begins attending classified intelligence briefings with candidate Trump.
Sept. 3 — Flynn and associates begin reaching out to Russian hackers in an attempt to obtain Clinton's personal e-mails and transmit them to Flynn through an intermediary.
Sept. 19 — Flynn meets with Turkey's ministers of foreign affairs and energy, Erdogan's son-in-law, and other officials at an undisclosed New York hotel, in a meeting arranged by Alptekin. Among other topics, Flynn discusses a plan for "a covert step in the dead of night to whisk [Gulen] away" without going through the legal extradition process.
Sept. 20 — Flynn, his son and business partners meet with Dana Rohrabacher, a U.S. congressman best known as a staunch advocate of pro-Russia policies.
Nov. 8 — Election day. Flynn publishes a lengthy op-ed entitled "Our ally Turkey is in crisis and needs our support". He states that "we need to see the world from Turkey’s perspective" and brands Gulen as "a radical Islamist". Flynn does not disclose to the publisher that he was being paid by Alptekin.
Nov. 10 — Obama, in a face-to-face conversation with Trump, warns against hiring Flynn to be part of Trump's national security team.
Nov. 11 — Media reports expose Flynn's contract with Alptekin to lobby on behalf of Turkey.
Nov. 14 — Flynn receives the final installment of $530,000 from Alptekin.
Nov. 18 — Flynn accepts Trump's offer of the position of National Security Advisor. Pence receives a letter from Rep. Cummings notifying him of Flynn's work on behalf of Turkey.
Nov. 30 — The Justice Department notifies Flynn that it is scrutinizing his work lobbying on behalf of the Turkish government.
Nov./Dec. 2016 — Flynn meets with Austrian far-right leader Heinz-Christian Strache at Trump Tower. Strache announces weeks later that his party has signed a cooperation agreement with Vladimir Putin's ruling party.
Dec. 1 — Flynn meets with Russian ambassador Kislyak and Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner at Trump Tower. The men discuss the possibility of setting up a secret and secure communications channel between Trump’s transition team and the Kremlin, using Russian diplomatic facilities to shield their discussions from monitoring.
Mid-Dec. — Flynn meets with the Turkish government to discuss an offer to pay him and his son as much as $15 million to kidnap Gulen and deliver him to a Turkish prison island."

 

Dec. 22 — Flynn secretly asks Kislyak for Russia's help to delay or defeat a pending UN Security Council resolution.
Dec. 29 — Flynn secretly discusses relief from U.S. sanctions with Kislyak on the same day the Obama administration announces its response to Russian interference in the campaign.
Jan. 4 — Flynn tells Trump’s transition team that he is under federal investigation for secretly working as a paid lobbyist for Turkey during the campaign.
Jan. 6 (approx.) — The FBI begins investigating Flynn's late December phone conversations with Kislyak.
Jan. 12 — Conforming to the wishes of Turkey, Flynn instructs the Obama administration to hold off on a military operation to retake the Islamic State’s de facto capital of Raqqa with Syrian Kurdish forces.
Jan. 18 — Flynn attends a “working breakfast” with the Foreign Minister of Turkey and others, including Devin Nunes, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.
Jan. 20 — Trump is inaugurated. Flynn becomes National Security Advisor.
Eleven minutes into the Trump presidency, Flynn texts ACU managing partner Alex Copson that the Russian nuclear plan is "good to go" and "to put things in place". Copson tells associates that Flynn would ensure that sanctions against Russia are "ripped up" and that "this is going to make a lot of very wealthy people".
Jan. 22 — The WSJ reports that Flynn is under investigation by U.S. counterintelligence agents regarding his communications with Russian officials.
Jan. 24 — The FBI interviews Flynn regarding his Russian contacts.
Jan. 26 — Acting Attorney General Sally Yates informs the White House that Flynn misled the FBI in his interview, that the DOJ knew that Flynn’s public accounts were untrue, and expressed concerns that he was vulnerable to blackmail by Russian intelligence.
Jan. 30 — Trump fires Yates.
Feb. 13 — Flynn is forced out of his role as NSA after The Washington Post reports on Yates's warning to the Trump White House.
Feb. 14 — In a private conversation with FBI director Comey, Trump asks Comey to end any investigation into Flynn, stating “I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go. He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go.”
March 7 — Flynn files paperwork acknowledging that he worked as a foreign agent representing the interests of the Turkish government.
March 22 — Trump asks Director of National Intelligence Coats to intervene with Comey to get the FBI to back off its focus on Flynn.
March 30 — Flynn tells the FBI and congressional officials that he is willing to be interviewed in exchange for immunity from prosecution, with his lawyer stating that “General Flynn has a story to tell, and he very much wants to tell it, should the circumstances permit”.
April 25 — Flynn tells associates, “I just got a message from the president to stay strong”.
April/May — Federal prosecutors issue grand jury subpoenas to Flynn associates seeking “records, research, contracts, bank records, communications” relating to Flynn and Alptekin.
May 9 — Trump fires Comey.
May 22 — A House committee reveals that Flynn lied to Pentagon investigators about the source of money he received from RT when applying for security clearance in 2016."

 

Flynn announces that he will not cooperate with a subpoena requiring him to hand over documents related to his dealings with Russians.
June 2 — Special Counsel Mueller assumes control of a grand jury investigation into Flynn.
August — Flynn files paperwork disclosing payments from SCL Group, a Virginia-based company related to Cambridge Analytica.
Dec. 1 — Flynn pleads guilty to willfully and knowingly lying to the FBI about his December 2016 conversations with Kislyak.
Dec. 4, 2018 — Mueller cites Flynn's "substantial" assistance with several criminal investigations when he recommends a sentence includes little to no jail time."

That is a lot of stuff to recieve no jail time. 19 separate interviews with Mueller suggests he sang about bigger fish.

 

Probably not overly intentional but there are obvious signals to send-

-Cooperate with law enforcement (shouldn’t have to be a shocking thing)
-Flynn was likely taking orders and not the one to initiate criminal activity
-Mueller feels secure enough to not go public with full details
-Flynn spawned even more criminal inquiries than we know about
-Trump team knows very little about what Flynn has provided and they have quite a bit of obstructing to do here to keep up

 

Exactly, these people are too caught up in their echo chamber. They hang on every single word they hear from their media sources and cannot think for themselves. How many times in this thread has something happened in the Mueller investigation then we see many people coming to this thread and saying this is it, they got Trump now only to find out different. How many in this thread when people point out there is no evidence so far do they keep saying just look at the number of indictments inferring that means Trump is guilty while never actually noticing that the indictments have nothing to due with Trump / Russia "collusion". All of that is straight from their echo chambers to this messageboard.

 

Echo chamber? You just echoed what he said. Look, no one really knows what’s what, and there is a ton of speculation from all sides. However, if you think Flynn being recommended to get no jail time can end with a positive outcome for anyone he worked for, you and your buddies are the delusional ones.

 

Exactly echo chambers. Snowflakes. Etc etc etc

Why can’t people realize how great Donald freakin Trump is. Exhibiting his vast intelligence in a myriad of ways on a daily basis. His selfishness bone spur type action as opposed to Bush being in the Spotlight recently in comparison.

Why would anyone follow this trickle of evidence and conclude that cheating on his wife and again selfless person he is could be involved with anything idiotic and the same time nefarious. It’s just impossible to fathom.

If you don’t like the orange guy. Why would someone not be hopefull he will get kicked to the curb and get excited about some of the info that has come out??? I’ll take Pence any day. It could also show the children being raised today that someone like that gets what he deserves no matter the position he is in.

 

No one is saying "they got Trump".

Let Mueller conclude his investigation for goodness sakes.

Circumstantial evidence is all we the public have. We also have the behavior of the "law and order" President when he reacts to Mueller news running his mouth about how it's good to not cooperate with law enforcement.

If all you have to contribute is platitudes about "echo chambers" to make yourself feel better, just don't bother posting.

With the 100+ tweets and statements about witch hunts and the evil Democrats when in reference to Bob Mueller from Trump, two conclusions can only be made, one reasonable and one that only could be drawn if you are part of a cult.

Either Trump is scared shitless and is swinging at air because there is actually something Mueller can find that would end his presidency or Mueller is a Democrat operative who has always had neferous intentions in regards to Trump and the entire Justice Department including the likes of Rosenstein abd Jeff Sessions are all apart of it.

Understanding the mind of Trump which a very easy mind to figure out due to his life long limelight in the public sphere and his overall dimwittedness, if Trump was silent on Mueller and was calm and collective regarding this investigation and was not sending out random tweets at 1am screaming "WITCH HUNT!", I myself would assume Mueller would never find anything but that obviously isn't the case.

 

There are a ton of outcomes that are possible that don't involve Trump in jail. Don't uncork your champagne just yet.

 

I doubt Trump will be going to jail. At worst, Mueller and Congress would most likely ask Trump to resign and promise to not prosecute him after he leaves office. It would be an incentive to resign.

"If you resign, we won't press charges".

Or "if you resign, we won't press charges towards your son".