Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Is Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

Then you just don’t care about the act of collusion because it’s staring you right in the face. Its been laid out in front of you but you just want to think nothing of it.

That’s fine then that’s on you being totally okay with an “American first” presidential candidate self dealing with a hostile foreign power at the same exact time they were attacking our election.

Also worth noting that the FBI had already warned trump at this point that the Russians might try to influence his campaign and he still move forward on these fronts and publicly asked the Russians to hack Hillary’s emails.

If that doesn’t disgust you then there is nothing Trump could be charged with here that would ever change your opinion.

Question - Do you even realize just how incredibly loyal you are to Donald J Trump? How does that make you feel that this man... of all people has wooed you so much that you’ll go to this great of length to say “meh”... fake news?

 

"Trump just wins"

That's the level of pgab's support, nothing more, nothing less.

 

Think about this for a second. Because of this news alone, Trump has had to cancel meetings at the G20 including a meeting with South Korea (which might be the most important issue in the world right now... dealing with NK) because he’s distracted and mad as hell.

The president is compromised either way you look at it, and simply cannot perform in the job.

This man needs to be removed from the job ASAP.

 

If its staring us right in the eye why hasnt he been indicted of collusion?

The deal Cohen has been accused of lying about was public knowledge

Furthermore it didn't happen

 

If it didn't happen then it is almost worse for America. The way Trump folded in front of Putin in Helsinki only makes sense if Putin has something on him or he owes Putin. If Trump is just naturally that weak with no reason other than his sniveling cowardice that is something really awful.

 

A. The crime of collusion is conspiracy.
B. This and most other indictments are guilty pleas... they wouldn’t plea guilty if there wasn’t a larger crime they were cooperating with the government on to take a lesser sentence. However the plea agreements have strongly indicated the underlying crimes that the lies pertain to.
C. The plea today outlines clears as day a coordination with the Russian government at the highest levels. Even names Vladimir Putin. This could be coordination about getting a better tasting version of Trump vodka. Still is highly un-American to be self dealing with a hostile foreign power as a candidate for the highest office.

Is dealing with the Russians on a personal business deal illegal while running for president illegal... no not on its face but there are certainly elements of that relationship that would clearly be illegal that will surely come out in later filings. Such as the new information that Trump and co. offered Putin himself a 50 million dollar sweet as part of the deal. That’s a federal bribery statute right there.

I mean again... I just don’t understand how people can be so loyal to one person. This one in particular. What are you getting out of so much loyalty?

 

Exactly. Whether or not they got on the phone and said “let’s collude to help me win the election” doesn’t matter. Vlad’s efforts worked. He’s compromised as hell and the current G20 summit cancellations are the outcome of that compromise.

 

You are doing this all wrong, as usual:

If it happened, why is he not indicted?

We all knew they were lying anyway

Yet It never happened.

This is just nonsense.

 

They been pleading guilty all year. Still nothing against Trump

 

These people have been cooperating. Nothing has come frim any of them about collusion.

None of their pleas are about collusion

 

Mueller is flexing and I’m here for it

 

you mean trumps subordinates who takes direct orders from him and updates him on what they do day to day?

 

Just not true on any level. You are either lying out of undying loyalty to Trump or just not educated on the case.

The Jerome Corsi plea agreement being the most obvious. It’s a direct line of collusion between Assange to Corsi/Stone to even naming Trump having repeated phone calls to Trump.

What... are you going to tell me now that Assange is somehow not a front for the Russian GRU?

The Cohen plea agreement is also all about collusion. It’s just very clearly laying the groundwork for what from a business perspective was dangled in front of Trump for incentive to cooperate with them. It backs up some of the key elements of the Steele Dossier that Trump fans railed about for two years as reason to shut down the probe and backs up reports that Trump fans called “fake news”.

This isn’t that hard to follow man. Either stop drinking the kool aid or get some basic education of the case.

 

The deal Cohen has talked about was public knowledge. Its a real estate deal. Trump does real estate

 

As for your most obvious example, what did corsi end up pleading to?

 

This is a serious question. Do you understand how plea deals work?

 

The deal supposedly fell apart in 2016. Thats what Cohen has changed his story about. Trump claimed it fell apart in January 2016 and Cohen is now saying it fell apart in May 2016

Your tweet is 2017

 

it's above your head

In Aug,

Cohen admitted in federal court that Trump directed the fixer to knowingly break the law to boost his own candidacy. Cohen was charged with eight counts, including two related to campaign-finance violations. Those counts, he said, involved Trump, as Cohen said he committed the campaign-finance violations "at the direction of the candidate" and with the "purpose of influencing the election."

Trump, identified as "candidate 1" is the unnamed co-conspirator; https://wwwp.businessinsider.com/michael-cohen-testimony-implicates-trump-co-conspirator-2018-8
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in Cohen's most recent guilty plead, Trump is also a unnamed co-conspirator

"I made these statements to be consistent with Individual-1's political messaging and out of loyalty to Individual-1," Cohen said. Individual-1 was identified in court filings as Trump, and Cohen identified him as such in a New York courtroom, https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/29/politics/michael-cohen-guilty-plea-misleading-congress/index.html
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you need to stop lying.

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