Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Is Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

What's pretty obvious is that you probably watch too much Alex Jones online.

Yes.... the global conspiracy theory is obvious... Theresa May, George Soros, The Australians, the Democrats, the FBI, the CIA, and THE RUSSIANS all plotted a perfectly executed scheme to LOSE THE ELECTION, and setup one big GOTCHA to finally take down Donald J. Trump. The only guy in the world fighting for the little man, who just wants to protect Muh Culture... this Leave it To Beaver Pleasantville Uptopia where all is well with my Bible, my Guns, and no Brown folks mucking up the neighborhood.

You got it man. Pretty Obvious indeed. And again.... can't say this point enough.... in order for your conspiracy theory to carry any weight, the Russians, and the Democrats would have to have worked together to help Donald Trump win.... yeah.... Good one.

 

And unlike you guys who always fight against the truth and facts being brought to the sunlight.... I say bring it on with showing everyone these FISA warrants. I just want the truth. Although, you guys do realize that people will die (likely Russians who provide info to the US, and our allies) as a result of Trump's political meandering.

That blood is on Trump's hands. But I have no reason to hide from the truth even if it doesn't help the cause to bring down Trump. If Trump is innocent, let the facts come out through the proper process. Even if Papadopolous got played into helping start an investigation into Trump/Russia by the Brits/Aussies/Global Deep State, it does not mean that Mueller will just create facts out of this air to nail Trump.

Why are you guys so afraid of facts again?

 

Well, there are facts and truth and value (which of course are very different among individuals and “groups”). We are already pass the point where value is more important than basic decency. I think we are witnessing that value is of greater importance than facts and truth. Some call it the post truth world.

In a weird way, I think we can’t just talk about facts anymore... maybe adding value to the conversation get people to really express what they want and that in itself, if that expression is allowed and people are willing to honestly listen, might do the job of closing the divide among us.

 

“I don't know what was discussed," Goldstone said. "What I do believe is that it is almost [incredible] to think that this conversation or these conversations could have taken place without discussion of funding, Russian funding, illegal funding, Democrats, Hillary, and it being of use to the campaign. I — I just can't understand how — how it wouldn't have been touched upon."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/na...es-he-d-never-set-trump-tower-meeting-n911851

This is a pretty fascinating interview from the guy who setup the meeting between Russian officials and Trump Jr.

 

Wut? Wasn't dowd trump's lawyer?

 

Well here’s Trumps guy apparently:

https://www.motherjones.com/politic...s-investigation-risked-becoming-a-witch-hunt/

Matt Whitaker. A former Trump surrogate for CNN who has called the Mueller probe a “witch hunt”.

We knew they’d find somebody. The only thing I can think of is DOJ officials are probably going to protest Session’s assistant who is 100% political. Sessions must be the guy trying to put the fix in here for Trump.

I actually thought Trump might move Mick Mulvaney over since he is Senate confirmed but that would be too obvious.

I 100% guarantee now that the only way we get to an end “report” from Mueller and maybe even the SDNY is via leak. The next two years are going to be absolute turmoil.

 

so that trump/rosenstein meeting was postponed.... can anything be inferred from this? does it make it more or less likely that rosenstein will be fired?

 

Since its likely that kavanaugh will be approved, trump won't have to worry about effecting that vote. So he will have free reign next week...

 

I say more. If he wasn’t going to be fired it wouldn’t be news. If Trump delayed because he wanted the Kav hearing to get better “ratings”, he’s absolutely planning on ousting him.

The Mueller probe is over and over at the same time. Meaning the evidence and the cooperating witnesses have given everything needed to build a case or exonerate. It’s just a matter of time (if Mueller has any) whether Mueller will prosecute Trumps family and report impeachment evidence, or give Trump a clean bill of health.

But it’s also over in the sense that Trump is seizing control with a ton of help from Congress of the reporting. This Matt Whitaker guy is the obvious person they are trying to put in place to stifle the reporting.

The only question you should be asking yourself at this point is whether or not Mueller will leak what the DOJ won’t report, how Congress will act based on the leak, and how far Trump will go to make the case about the leakers... meaning will he go scorched earth to purge and possibly do crazy pre WW2 dictator stuff.

 

Ffff

all i can say is we're living in interesting times

 

I think even if Mueller comes out with a smoming gun it won't matter. At this point about 30% of the country believes Trump is the victim of a deep state conspiracy. A fair amount are probably indifferent. I think our best case scenario is a Dem Senate and two years of gridlock (which btw our Constitution is designed to gridlock the federal govt during times of diagreement because they wrote it when every state had its own army and the federal government was little more than a loose confederation). Worst case? Trump gets impeached; he refuses to accept it and states that publicly. Maybe half of his hard core supporters follow him to the end of the earth (15% of 300 mil = 35 mil) thats a significant part of the population. Especially frightening with the disproportionate amount of Trump voters who serve in the military, who are law enforcement, who own guns. It maybe different elsewhere but in the Northeast most people don't own guns but the ones who do; they own 10 and are usually ex-mil or ex-cops and very pro trump. And if they're convinced a deep state conspiracy is unfairly taking him down; if he declares himself a political prisonee because 66 Dem Senators impeach him; I wouldn't be the least be surprised if there's a few mass shootings on the Eastern seaboards by so-called "patriots" who wanna be the next McVeigh

 

I don’t have a crystal ball, but my best guess is that because of the above mentioned a gridlock caused by a Dem Congress with the Dems not throwing Trump out of office might be the best thing and most likely optomistic scenario for the country.

The facts of the Mueller probe will come out but the delivery mechanism now is what’s in question for obvious reasons.

The best thing for the country could very well be gridlock and using the evidence for voters in 2020 to create an overwhelming rebuke of the stain on our country that was the Trump presidency. I don’t believe for one minute whats left of the Trump DOJ will allow for a straight forward report to Congress and the American people and I expect that Trump DOJ to order the SDNY to halt investigations. We will likely be relying on the press as the final delivery mechanism for the facts.

All that wishful thinking though comes down to massive turnout this November to take back Congress to create that check and gridlock. You make a great point about the constitution. Gridlock is by design for times like this.

 

I think Trump supporters resorting to terrorism wont be taken too well.

 

Emoluments... follow the money...

 

The interesting thing about the Judiciary Committee decision today is it buys Rosenstein 1 extra week of employment. One wonders if Mueller will release something before he has a less independent boss.

 

I think Mueller goes quiet till after the mid terms. Just like we see with Rosenstein, the moment Trump gets a sniff of pretense, he’s shutting it down.

Mueller has to know that he’s likely done unless he gets fortunate enough to get a non-Trumper taking over the probe at the DOJ which is unlikely.

I don’t think the SDNY and DC offices will be quiet though. I’m almost positive that they can indict without approval being needed from the DOJ unlike Mueller even though they can be ordered to drop probes. Just think they are ahead of the game and can likely move quicker than the new DOJ head can to make probes go away. He will also never be able to make the evidence go away so that’s the ultimate problem for Trump.

My prediction: Most likely it’s quiet till after the mid terms, and if the new DOJ head is this Matt Whittaker guy or worse, we are likely just relying on leaks from inside these offices about how the new DOJ head is ordering them to stand down and then the inevitable poltical firestorm insues. If Congress is still Republican led by then God help us all. All bets are off. Without that there will be no mechanism for keeping Whittaker or whoever in check when he inevitably orders Mueller and the SDNY to stand down.

 

I’ll add too that I do think the new Speaker of the House (if the Dems win back the House) needs to be someone with prosecutorial experience. Many of them do so they’d be foolish to elect someone whose going to be buried in legal scandal oversight that doesn’t have that experience.

 

the FBI has referred the investigation into the hacking of GOP operative, who had sued the Trump campaign,
to the Mueller team

Cheri Jacobus told POLITICO that FBI agents in the bureau’s cyber division informed her in September that they had forwarded their investigation to Mueller because the matter came to exceed the bounds of computer intrusion, the crime that had been the initial focus of the investigation.

Jacobus alleges the hacking of her personal email account was part of a broader campaign of harassment and intimidation that followed critical comments she made about Trump during the 2016 Republican primaries.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/02/mueller-investigation-emails-hack-857288

 

If you've seen what the Times got on dotard's tax evasion, imagine what Mueller has...