Robert Mueller, Former F.B.I. Director, Is Named Special Counsel for Russia Investigation

paraphrasing what Mueller's team told the judge: "We're not going to tell you what the limits of our investigative authority are, but Manafort's dealings in 2005 are within them"

 

Well we see now a patern of political collusion of outsourcing the dirty work of their political gain.

I assume an Israeli source provided this information which isn’t surprising. Israel isn’t as pro Trump as you might think. Wouid be interesting to see if this went through back channels of their poltical operatives outside the government or if they were openly using taxpayer funded arms of the government for work like this.

Going after other Americans from past administrations for political gain while colluding with foreign powers to me is highly unpatriotic at the very least. Absolutely the most corrupt group of individuals to ever step foot in the White House.

 

Reading between the lines... |Devin Nunes|

 

If I remember correctly the Judge was a Reagan appointee.
He has been involved in a number of interesting rulings over the years.

 

No... this is why “paraphrasing” as you call it takes liberties with the truth.

They weren’t saying they wouldn’t tell the judge their investigative authority. They were saying they wouldn’t show the judge the evidence that connects the Manafort charges to Russians and the election. That’s quite the difference you are trying to propagate.

Also the TRUMP DOJ wouid have been the ones who decided whether or not to refer to an outside prosecutor like they did in the Michael Cohen case. This judges bone to pick would ultimately be with Rosenstein not Mueller.

The judge is essentially asking for the evidence to show that these charges are in their purview and Mueller’s team is saying trust me, we’ve got it. However that might not be enough for this judge so they might have to put up what they’ve redacted in these indictments to ensure they don’t lose a key part of their investigation.

Which I think was a big part of why Manafort sued in the first place. They want to know what Mueller’s really got not just on Manafort but Trump and co. This might do the trick actually.

 

It is politics. He was a Reagan appointee and has followed party lines for decades. As for activist Judges; I agree there are too many on both sides of the aisle. However the idea that it is worse now is questionable. They have always existed. The one exception is political identity. Judges seem to follow the party line more than in the past. Bush v. Gore showed me that at the end of the day, for many Judges it is political warfare.

 

I will say two things though (Trump fans probably would say too although now they won’t cause I’m saying it).

-Special counsels shouldn’t have unlimited prosecutorial power.

We’ve all seen what can happen when a land deal turns into a blow j. Republicans will have itchy trigger fingers to get a special counsel appointed to investigate the next Democrat with any real power. There should be the role of the judges and independence at the DOJ to make sure this isn’t just used as another political tool like everything else.

Bob Mueller is NOT someone I could ever seeing overstepping but I’m glad that we are seeing checks to that overstepping for the next Ken Starr who might want to go fishing.

-2... I do think it’s time for Mueller to start putting out at least some of the core pieces of evidence of collusion to the American people.

I suspect he’s been withholding and redacting a ton of evidence mostly because he knows it will tip off Trump and force a constitutional crisis sooner than he’s prepared to deal with. I assume he wants everything buttoned up before it goes public which is understandable but given the nature of this investigation in the political spectrum he does need to “put up or shut up” at some point.

He might have to with the Manafort case very very soon because of this judge.

 

Also belong in the Iran nuke thread. Go after the professionals who worked on the deal instead of the merit of the deal. That’s all they have left. Personal attack to discredit and misinformation. If they use Intel, foreign or not... that’s an abuse of power and probably illegal. So of course they would use private investigators. Wouldn’t surprise me if these investigator are linked to bibi.

 

Mueller's only charge having to do with Russia is in big trouble.

He didn't expect any of the Russian companies would defend themselves in court. He's completely unprepared for the discovery process that will begin as soon as they are arraigned on Wed (Mueller tried to get the arraignment postponed claiming the company hadn't accepted the summons, they were like "uh yeah lol we do accept").

Either Mueller starts handing over evidence of this company's alleged illegal election meddling next week, or the case will be dismissed/dropped.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/05/mueller-would-prefer-not-to.php

 

"He's completely unprepared..."

It's soooo cool that we have a resident Rockets' fan who is inside Mueller's investigative team!

 

The charges against Manafort have nothing to do with Russia or the election.

The SC provided no evidence that Rosenstein granted them authority to do grand jury, search warrant, indictments for things unrelated to Russia or the 2016 election.

No elected official, no court, and not the public, knows the extent of Mueller's power. Only the unelected DoJ knows that.

Manafort's teams point out that it is sketchy that the SC provided no evidence of Rosenstein granting them additional authority. Were those directives not documented? The only thing the SC provides is an after the fact August 2017 memo, which reads like a CYA retroactive grant of authority.

 

LOL, and what is Mueller's only charge dealing with Russia? I do like how your trump defense now centers on rooting for Russian companies. Your conversion is now complete comrade!

 

you are totally wrong. From the trial:

 

I'm guessing that you have no family or friends that have been through the criminal justice system. I can name judges from my childhood, by name, in Nueces County, that did those things. I've also seen judges there get away with saying all kinds of inflammatory things to defendants because the court reporters don't usually record the Spanish.

 

he's charged people with the tried-and-true "making false statements to the FBI" which he can get anyone on who's dumb/naive enough to talk to him

he's charged Manafort with bank fraud from back in 2007 (that had nothing to do with Russia or the 2016 election)

he's charged some Russian internet companies with funding online political speech (truly a grave threat to our republic). It was a political charge to show he was doing something, he never thought he would have to actually make the case. Now it's in danger of being dismissed.

 

LOL at the way you wave off false statements to the FBI. Reckon your acceptance of trumps constant lies leads to this. But last I knew, lying to the FBI is against the law.

Second, we dont know what the activist partisan judge will rule regarding the SC case and position that Manaforts connection to Russians through Ukrainians. The SC is coming back to the judge on that.

And do far, nothing has been dismissed. So you will have to hold off on your celebrating for Russians here.

 

Thanks, NewRoxFan. You saved some of us some time with these posts.

 

Well, looks like it’s Black Cube. Same firm hired to do dirty job for Weinstein’s. Follow thread.

Who pay them and how?