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Robert Horry wants to come back to Houston. Could this be our small forward?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by j-bone, May 21, 2001.

  1. verse

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    player option.
     
  2. 4chuckie

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    I totally agree with SLC. Horry may not be great but he brings us 2 things:
    1) A proven sf.
    2) A shot-blocker
    He's not great at either but better than what we currently have.

    Did anyone see his swat there at the end of the game on saturday? Nice block!

    I think I'll start my own club, remember all the factions last year, the ATDCs (anything to dump cato). I don't care who we trade him for, as long as we trade him.
     
  3. OT

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    Phil Jackson would not put up with Cato's lazy butt. He would only get 1/3 of the productivity that he is getting with Grant.

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  4. Rocket River

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    Can we trade Cato for Chuckie Brown?

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  5. rock

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    I would love to see Horry back. It would bring back some memories!

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  6. saleem

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    If Horry can make up wirh Rudy,then I would be all for getting him but only if we could trade Cato for him.What concerns me is the thought of Hakeem going to LA to join up with Shaq.

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  7. DaDakota

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    Pass !

    Robert Horry is an average player at best. I would rather see some of the young guys get a chance.

    However, if we can remove Cato and or Walt, I would seriously consider it.

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  8. rocketsfan

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    How about Pete Chillcut for the 3? [​IMG]

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  9. DaneB

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    Horry is better than average player. He could average around 15 points on any other team than the Lakers, has really good D, and can even shoot the 3 fairly well. Anybody see him hit some crucial threes towards the end of Game 2? If it wasn't for him, who knows if LA would have still won.

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  10. Sonny

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    COME HOME HORRY!!!!!!!!

    WE MISS YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Hell lets go get Cassell too!!!

    Wink,Cassell,Cat,Moochie!!!!

    I have got to quit drinking that mash liquher.



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  11. RichRocket

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    This is trending towards vindicating my bashing of the Barkley trade years ago.

    We could have had Cassell and Horry all of these years. What if we had kept Avery Johnson, Mario Elie, Eric Snow, Eldridge Recasner and David Wesley--all active still through conference semi-finals. Don't forget Sam Mitchell of the T-Wolves, too. We sure don't keep the guards around, do we? Have I left anyone out?

    We would still need some big bodies!

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    No Cuttino Mobley, Moochie Norris or Steve Francis...

    (I didn't know we had Snow)

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    Cato for Horry?!?!

    I wish!



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  14. vj23k

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    I would take Horry, that is if we don't land Battier, Jefferson, any other desired "3"from the draft.

    He is still a pretty good player, and fits in great with our team, not too well with the Lake Show though.

    Looking back on the trade, how many would have even traded Cassell+Brown for the Chuckster. He had just left his prime when we acquired him, while as soon as we traded him, Sam blossomed into a superstart.

    I firmly believe that Horry would have been a 15 ppg, 7 rpg, 5 apg kind of guy. The trade killed his career.

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  15. wrath_of_khan

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    Good article.

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/reports/2001/nbaplay/lat_lakers010524.htm

    Horry's Not All There
    Lakers: Forward thinks about family in Houston and a possible return.

    By TIM BROWN, Times Staff Writer

    Robert Horry could opt out of his deal after the season.
    WALLY SKALIJ / Los Angeles Times

    Their home stands among other stone-and-brick residences in Houston, not far from the arena there, where he played four seasons and won two NBA championships. He thinks often of returning to Houston to play basketball, to live year-round, to come home from work to find a porch light on and children in their beds.
    Horry, the power forward who has done his time on Rasheed Wallace, Chris Webber and Tim Duncan in the Lakers' 9-0 march into the playoffs, can opt out of his contract at the end of the season. He is due $5.3 million next season and $5.3 million the season after, and the club holds an option for the 2003-04 season.
    With no sure deals out there for a player soon to be 31 years old, and with achy knees and back, Horry has not yet chosen to stay. Or leave.
    "It's going to boil down to a 7-year-old and a 2-year-old," he said Wednesday afternoon. "It's a huge life decision. It's going to be a major, major, major thing in my life at that moment. It's going to be, 'Am I going to go this way, this way or that way? To the top, to the side, or to the bottom?' "
    Cameron is 2. Already he is a Laker fan, and yells as much into the phone when Robert calls.
    Ashlyn is 7. She too appears to love the Lakers. She was born without part of her first chromosome, according to Horry. She cannot walk or eat without help, and she cannot speak. Horry couldn't recall the name of her condition, for the name is inconsequential to him.
    "It's some long name," he said.
    When he talks to Ashlyn on the phone, she holds the receiver to her ear. He tells her about his day, and about the Lakers, and how he loves her. And then he speaks to Keba, his wife, who describes Ashlyn's expressions when he spoke to her.
    If that sounds sad, it is, Horry said, "some days."
    "But you get used to it," he said. "Well, you tell yourself that, anyway."
    That is why Houston is important, and why Los Angeles can be difficult, even on the league's glamour team on potentially the greatest playoff tear in NBA history. He is not just another father missing his children, but a father who feels necessary and sometimes out of touch, away from the doctors who have treated his child since birth.
    They can't tell him what tomorrow, or even years of tomorrows, will bring for Ashlyn. What he knows is he would like to be involved, and what he wonders is how it all fits with his night job.
    "It's basically a day-to-day process," he said. "It's all about how well she adapts."
    With that question never far, Horry had a so-so regular season, averaging 5.2 points and 3.7 rebounds in 20 minutes. Though he appears nearly elastic in his rangy, 6-foot-10 frame, Horry had his usual knee soreness. During an in-season conversation he admitted, "I fade," meaning he disappears for parts of games, not scoring or rebounding, but participating from a distance, a small forward in a big forward's body.
    Along came the playoffs, and the most critical defensive assignments, and Horry came to life. Playing behind Horace Grant, and recently playing the majority of the power-forward minutes, Horry averaged 7.0 points, 7.0 rebounds, 2.0 steals and 2.0 blocks in the first two games of the Western Conference finals against the San Antonio Spurs.
    "The only times I fade is when I don't have to play defense," he said. "If I'm playing somebody where I'm doing a lot of standing around, gotta box out, that's the only time I fade. But when I've got to guard a tough opponent, my head's in it, I stay within the game. You've got to be focused. I kind of get that Elden Campbell syndrome sometimes. You know? It doesn't happen as often as it does to Elden, but you know, it happens.
    "On this team, you're not involved in a lot of things, especially on the offensive end. You're out there sometimes, you're like, 'What time is it? How much time is left on the clock?'
    "You'd like to stay focused, but when you're guarding somebody, you know you've got to be focused because you don't want to get embarrassed."
    Duncan scored 40 points in Game 2, but was two for six from the field in the fourth quarter against Horry, who had two steals in the quarter. Horry has given Laker Coach Phil Jackson an alternative to Grant's muscle, an annoying defensive presence who can be a three-point threat.
    "He walks around like Sam Perkins, a little goofy," Grant said, Perkins being the heavy-lidded Indiana Pacer forward. "I hope he's not on some type of medication. Robert's one of those weird cats. If you light that fire beneath him, he's going to burn for a long time."
    The Lakers figure it's a playoff thing for Horry.
    "Robert's been through all of this stuff before, so I'm sure the regular season gets pretty draining, pretty boring," Laker guard Derek Fisher said. "Physically, he's been challenged to be able to play at a high level. Because of his daughter's situation, not being able to be with his family for a large part of the season, all of these things come into play with him. So, I think in the postseason he's able to focus in more into the fact that 15 wins is the goal, and whatever he can do to accomplish that is what he'll do."
    If it does reach 15, that won't be the end for Horry, of course. He has to make his decision by the end of June, perhaps without a strong indication one way or the other from the Rockets, who are expected to make a strong run for Webber, a free agent, further complicating it.
    "If he decides to opt out and head back toward Texas," Rick Fox said, "it would be hard not to understand."



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    After reading that article, I don't know how anyone could not want the Fresh Prince back in the pinstripes...

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  17. Cato=Bum

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    "Looking back on the trade, how many would have even traded Cassell+Brown for the Chuckster. He had just left his prime when we acquired him, while as soon as we traded him, Sam blossomed into a superstart.

    I firmly believe that Horry would have been a 15 ppg, 7 rpg, 5 apg kind of guy. The trade killed his career."

    -I agree on all counts. You can't really fault the Rockets though. Everyone wanted Barkley and thought it was a great deal. After the way the Drexler trade worked it out, it seemed like Barkley would work too. It was a good risk IMO, just didn't work out like we all hoped.

    -I'd love to see us get Horry back. He'd be a better PF than Mo Taylor IMO. The man will be very valuable in the new zone scheme. He has always played the passing lanes well, gotten a lot of steals and deflections, and is a good weakside shot blocker. He can hit the 3 too. One of the most clutch playoff performers in recent NBA history if we can make it back.


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  18. vj23k

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    Good Point, I mean I loved having the Chuckster here, I had always liked him, but as a Rocket, I loved him.

    It's just that I think we could have been right up there with the Bulls had we not done that trade.

    C-Dream
    PF-Willis(Free Agency?)/Harrington
    SF-Horry/Elie
    SG-Clyde
    PG-Cassell/Price

    Old, but we don't have that weak link at the PG spot.

    Also, what if we had acquired Stoudamire in that infamous deal?

    C-Dream
    PF-Chuck
    SF-Walt
    SG-Clyde/Walt
    PG-Stoudamire/Price

    Again, no weak links(Even Walt was a pretty good player then).

    Ah, all these "What Ifs"

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  19. Sonny

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    I would love to get some of the old guys back. Picking up Horry and Chucky Brown and dropping Cato and Carlos Rogers. I love Carlos but Rudy T doesnt? He always seemed to like Chucky.

    I used to drool over the whole cwebb thing but now I am thinking that keeping MoT and Dream and having a great draft - Battier, we could do fine WITHOUT him. Cwebb does NOT have the killer instinct. I have known that since the Michigan game. Things havent changed , he wont be the one to hit the big shot and win it. My ideal team would be;

    F - Mo T , Horry, KT, Battier, Walt/Langhi
    G - Wink,Cat,Mooch!!!!!!!!
    C - Dream, Draft Pick, Collier

    It would be great to have a core team of
    Dream,Wink,Cat,Mooch,Horry,KT,MoT and build around that. Horry is 31, I say he has at least 3 years of life left in him. Come Home!!!!!! Pick up Chucky Brown and Pete Chillcut along the way!!!!



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