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Robert Horry advanced in the Playoffs EVERY YEAR

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tinman, Aug 2, 2017.

  1. roslolian

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    Plus he looks like Will Smith, one of my all time fav actors lol. There's no way he won't be great.
     
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    Sure, but was he better than Cassell, Maxwell or Thorpe?.... I am not so sure.

    Those names are not even mentioned in the HOF conversation, not close.

    He won some playoff games by himself in the clutch but he also played with the greatest players that graced that era.

    He had heart and could make shots in the clutch, very valuable but I doubt the HOF will start inducting role players unless they are Rodman like......

    Battier might have a chance then. I kid.
     
  3. tinman

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    He was far more athletic than Battier

    He was only second to Shaq in block shots in college at the SEC.

    Look at the videos posted here dunking on the Knicks .
    So quick
     
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    Horry was a great player that helped to give teams the extra edge in the playoffs, he should definitely be remembered for that.
    Championship teams absolutely need those players and there's a reason why you see some players having more rings than others.

    There should be a side HOF for players like him, that honors best role players of all time that did everything to help their team win.

    Should he make the current HOF format? Definitely not, as it is about individual talent and personal accolades.
    Should guys like him be honored in an alternative way? Definitely.
     
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    The thing is how can he be relied upon as a 2nd option or 3rd....

    It's hard when the only time he played as a full time starter (not sporadically) was with the Rockets and that wasn't very long and you know it.

    He was here for 4 years. 12 ppg was his highest in regular season.

    5 years - Spurs
    7 years - a Laker

    was even a Phoenix Sun in a trade for Chuckster

    [​IMG]

    My case still stands - Cassell was a better baller. He contributed more to the team's regular seasons and playoffs.

    (won 2 with Rox, 1 with the Celtics Big 4 against Trevor Ariza) Could have won one in the KG, Sprewell and Cassell Minny big 3 - watched them closely

    Fun to watch and KG then departed to the Celts.

    Cassell is also an underrated assistant coach.
     
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    I already said it ....he is in the San Antonio HOF, which is ironic, some Alamonians dun even like the idea.

    It is what it is. The overall HOF is harder to make for elite role players. You gotta have a better stat line...

    http://ticket760.iheart.com/onair/c...r-spur-robert-horry-among-inductees-15166694/

    big ish honor!

    He is great, no doubt, but he is not a star, not an Allstar, not a fulltime starter even most of his career.

    Not an offense go to guy over 40 minutes. That was not his role.
     
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    Robert Horry was so good in the 95 NBA finals that no Rockets fans would complain if he had won the finals MVP. Yes, even over Hakeem.

    Even Hakeem vouched for him after the series.

    But some of you guys wouldn't know that because you never watched it all and are just looking at the stat line.
     
  9. Yung-T

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    Sure, no one said anything different in regards to that series.
    But that alone doesn't mean he should go into the current HOF format, which is based on individual performance over a long time.

    Like I said, they should split the HOF into two categories or change the format so that historical championship pieces/ extremely valuable role players are part of it. Horry definitely deserves some kind of recognition in the NBA annals.
     
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    You don't understand that Robert Horry is the best complimentary player to a good big man

    His skills sets are much better than battier he can defend every front line position and is quick enough to get steals from guards

    Cassell was a point guard a completely different position
     
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    He made teams pay for double teaming Dream.
    He had so much confidence in his abilities he went against so many hall of fame forwards
    He saved the Spurs and Lakers in legendary games
    Winning 7 titles is unique and legendary in itself

    Also he is an awesome analyst not afraid to say what's on his mind
     
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    wow that tinman be top rank...
     
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    !!!
    What happens after vegas stays in vegas, now get out!!!!
     
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    just for tinman

     
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    Robert Horry threw a sweat-laden towel in Danny Ainge's face on TV.

    That alone should get him into the Hall of Fame.
     
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    I understand fully what he meant to a championship team who has their 1st superstar and 2nd star already established......or even 3rd star.

    But as I researched and with the help of guys like @Jmcballer88 and @Yung-T breh in the Fantasy Draft.

    There are couple of 3 shooting bigs that are more talented than Horry and as far as I know never won a championship. Because of luck or timing.

    Serge Ibaka, Sleepy Sam Perkins and Donyell Marshall (there might be more but that is that for now.)

    All non Allstars PFs with 6-9 rpg (3rd or 4th options on their respective teams)......and a solid game (Horry career 4.8 rpg)

    Every one of them went deep into the Playoffs (Finals). Everyone of them could be playing next to Hakeem and be valuable.

    You dun want to talk about Cassell because he is a PG?

    Well, OTIS THORPE is a better individual player.......

    We were talking about the player Horry was and not the couple of clutch shots he made in the playoffs and the rest of his 8-10 points

    He did not play that many minutes in the Regular season so he could rest for the Playoffs (Pop tactic).


    24.5 minutes per game Regular Season Careerwise - 28 mpg careerw. Playoffs

    http://ballislife.com/sam-perkins-3-teams-3-nba-finals-0-rings/


    Robert Horry might not be better individually but he has proven to be more valuable in the Playoffs and in the clutch....Valuable not better .....
     
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    ^^
    You don't even need to start a debate about other stretch 4s in this HOF debate.
    Just take a look at some NBA players who didn't get inducted yet:
    Sidney Moncrief, Bobby Jones, Chris Webber, Ben Wallace, Marques Johnson, Alvin Robertson, Jack Sikma, Mo Cheeks, Bob Dandridge, Schrempf, Chambers, etc.

    There are a ton more that had better individual accolades and performances. That's why saying Horry should be a HOFer is troublesome under the current system, he clearly shouldn't be when it's only based on performance and not championships.

    HOF needs to be restructured and acknowledge key players more, so that guys like Horry, Horace Grant etc can receive the respect they deserve, as they clearly elevated their teams to better levels. Agree that other players were huge assets but never got to play for true contenders, but you unfortunately can't induct every great individual player.
     
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    You can't really evaluate Glue type of players or Low Stats Allstars. Agreed.

    My other point was that Robert Horry saved himself for the Playoffs because he knew he wasn't getting 30 minutes per game with increasing age!!

    You also cannot say Horry is such a great player and not mention Kobe, Shaq, Duncan, Hakeem who all made life much easier for him because Horry aint important enough to be a focal point.
     
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    Big shot Bob DID reserve his best for the playoffs...He coasted with the Pimp Slink during stretches of the regular season.
    No, players like him(and they're aren't many) don't belong in the HOF, but maybe should have their #'s retired by teams.
     
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    One could probably put together a highlight reel of Flyin' Ryin' Bowen. OK, mebbe not...
     

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