and Luck have made Indy way better! at the half way mark Luck is having much more of an impact than RGIII (that could be by design by the coaches or team talent). Indy sure got Lucky at the right time to pick up Luck. They both have a long career ahead of them and the debate will be far from settled for several years at least (at least that is my opinion)
Or you elevate the level of play around you. Indy was the WORST team last year. Repeat that to yourself. They are now 5-3 with the inside track for a wild card. Today, Luck had ZERO running game, and thus he put up 433 yards passing. He faced the best 3rd down defensive team and shredded them for a 69% success rate. You have to be aware that Shanahan hasn't opened up his playbook much for RG3. For Luck, he's basically been thrown the kitchen sink.
Maybe Red Skins should let RGIII have a chance to win the game like Luck does at Indy and not manage him so tight, so what if he throws some bad passes?
There's an ESPN article that documents how RGIII has been babied pretty tightly by Shanahan (e.g. a lot of easy passes). There's an ESPN article out there that documents how each are handled in a very detailed manner. Can' find it right now, but here are some facts. 1) Luck is asked to do more than Griffin and is doing it. His average pass completion travels 8.6 yards in the air, highest in the NFL. Griffin's is 5.8, one of the lowest. 2) More than 20 percent of RG3's passes this season haven't even traveled across the line of scrimmage. Only 6 percent of Luck's haven't. Shanahan is a veteran head coach and has coached Elway, so I'm sure he knows how to develop a talent like RG3. But Luck is basically having to do it all, and his team is responding. Luck has been doing this since Stanford so this is nothing new to him. If you had RG3 basically calling his own shots, his stats wouldn't be as pretty as it is right now. Before this season started, nobody would think the Colts would be competing for a wild card spot while the Redskins would be 3-5 (it would be the other way around). The REdskins do have more talent than the Colts after all (Colts were the worst team in the league last year). At the end of the day, both are awesome talents. But the Redskins have said they won't really put much more on RG3's plate (allow him to do more of his own playcalling and things like that till mid-next yr) while Luck is already doing that.
RG3 has no one to throw too, plus Garcon and Fred Davis are out for the year also in Shanahans offense the qb will never be the primary weapon.. usually its the rb's They need new coaches, the skins are undisciplined on Offense and Defense, and have on accountability I also like how you dont factor in injuries, and the fact that Luck plays a much easier schedule
Sorry but it's not Robert Griffin fault that Hankerson has dropped about 5 td's this year. There is only so much you can do. Not to mention the fact that Robert Griffin doesn't play defense. Redskins are 10th in scoring offensively Colts are 23rd in scoring offensively.
Luck has a qbr under 80. RG3 has one over 90. Russell Wilson has a 13-8 TD to Int ratio. I think Luck also has the single best weapon of all the rookies.
You also forgot to mention the Redskins have the 4th best rusher in the league, which forms with RG3 to have the best rushing attack in the league. Indy is #20. Luck has 2 of the 5 rushing TDs Indy has. And that's why they struggle to score. When you get into the red zone, you must have a running game to score. The Colts have little trouble going up and down the field bc Luck can throw. But you need a running game once the field shortens in the red zone. Passing-wise, Indy is #6, averaging 281 yds a game. Washington is #17. Ultimately, Washington is run-heavy while Indy is pass-heavy. Furthermore, Indy is DEAD-LAST in takeaways, and has a -11 overall in give/takeaways, one of the worst in the league. So they do NOT create opportunities at all. Indy's offense has had to basically drive the whole field just to score. On the other hand, Washington is #7. So although their defense gives up a ton of points, they still create turnovers. And here's the stat you should watch for. On 3rd down, Indy converts 45% of its 3rd downs (5th best in league). And that's ALL on Luck. He converted 13/19 on 3rd down vs. the best 3rd down D in Miami last Sunday. That's how you know a QB is great or not. The teams before him all have HOF-QBs (Big ben, Peyton, Brady, Ryan). Washington?? Dead last at 29%. They usually don't extend plays. Feast or famine isn't going to work in the long run. Both are going to be great players, but you have to watch Luck to see how much he carries that offense on his back. He's basically ahead of the curve according to Indy compared to a rookie Peyton Manning. Luck is where Peyton was in his 2nd year already in terms of carrying an offense. ??? Luck's QBR is 76.1, while RG3 is 68.7. But do you really trust these stats when Rodgers is #5 at 73.1. Rodgers is by far and away the best QB in the league and what he has to do for that offense. Like I said, you have to watch Luck to appreciate what he has to do. He's carrying a HUGE burden for a rookie. Yes, having Wayne definitely helps. But he has a below average running game, and an unproven coaching staff.
The dropped passes by the Redskins receivers this year is part tragedy and part comedy. I have never seen anything like it. I've seen Santana Moss drop more wide open passes than Hankerson.
You haven't seen the Cowboys have you. Not only do they drop passes, those drop passes can lead to INTs.
Cowboys are the biggest joke in the NFL. I LOVE watching them suffer. Their games are a nice side dish on Fox.
Alfred Morris is putting up those stats because of RG3. You could put any back in that system, and they would rush for those yards, RG3 is a game-changer. The Redskins are just not using him right
It is fun to watch them suffer but they have an easy schedule. 6-2/7-1 and finishing 9-7/10-6 is highly possible.
This isn't a bad thing. I want them to do well enough to keep Jason Garrett, even if that means making the playoffs as 5th or 6th seed.
Yep. Keeps them mediocre in terms of draft picks also. Keep in mind the reason the Texans have taken off is because of a mediocre team that did worse than expected. Thank you, Kris and Chris!
If the draft ended week 1 or week 10, Luck would still be the #1 pick. You just have to watch him operate an offense to know how potentially great he is. He's in the Manning/Rodgers/Brady mold that can control an offense, and he's a freakin' rookie. You're right that Garrett is dumb as a rock. I hope he gets bounced even if Dallas makes and goes far in the playoffs.
Still not sure why folks are so determined to fight over which really special rookie QB is not as special as the other. They're both outstanding, with different strengths. I do suspect we'll see Luck have big games more frequently this year, largely because RG3 has lost his biggest weapons (Garcon, Davis) and has a brutal second half schedule coming up (Cleveland the only cupcake). Half of the remaining Colts opponents are patsies (Jax, Buf, Cle, KC). Only affects two games on the schedule (Cleveland, Kansas City), and they haven't played either one yet.
