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Robert F. Kennedy Jr. launches unlikely presidential bid as a Democrat

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Reeko, Apr 20, 2023.

  1. rocketsjudoka

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    Biden said he would end cancer too.

    I suppose you agree with that also?
     
  2. Nook

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    Are there countries and businesses that would do that if they knew for 100% certainty there would be no consequences? Absolutely.

    Is the PRC or USA governments capable of pulling it off, and does it fit the culture of either country? Absolutely not.

    The PRC cannot even keep quiet that there are forced detainment camps of that there are spy balloons flying over other countries. While they TRY to be covert or give the position of absolute authoritative control and calculated brilliance, that isn't the case at all. Contrary to what the media in the West says, the PRC screws up all the time. Also, contrary to what the West media says, the PRC really doesn't want an actual war with the USA. They are like a passive aggressive cousin. They will take little shots at you, but they do everything to avoid an actual all out physical fight. It is because of the history of culture of the PRC mixed with traditional Chinese history/culture.

    The USA government cannot keep anything quiet, the government is so weak in some ways, that literally everything comes out. Hell no one hates the USA government more than the USA government. They go as far as to embrace the friend of my enemy.

    As for Jews in America, they are some of the most non-religious people I know. There obviously are some very religious Jews, but the successful and powerful Jews I know are extremely secular.
     
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    has he ended cancer?
     
  4. rocketsjudoka

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    Not yet but he's put a lot of funding and other policies behind it with several breakthroughs coming recently.

    Did you find it refreshing and something different when Biden pledged that during the campaign?
     
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    didn't hear him promise to end cancer during the campaign.

    RFKJ's promise is a little different tho.
     
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  6. rocketsjudoka

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    Joe Biden said it many times during the campaign. He said it even before he ran as it was a huge issue for him when Beau Biden and then John McCain dies from the same cancer.
    https://people.com/politics/biden-promises-to-cure-cancer-if-he-beats-trump-in-2020/]
    Yes he's talking about Chronic diseases while Joe Biden is about cancer. Do you take RFK Jr's promise more seriously than Joe Biden?
     
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    This is why its dangerous to allow dishonest kooks (rfk jr, vivek, trump) anywhere close to the presidency...

     
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    what does "allow" mean? we should make it illegal for certain people to run for president?
     
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    Yes.

    We don't allow 33 year olds to be president or people not born here.

    I would say spewing crazy conspiracies about Jews bioengineering a pandemic and then bootlicking an American adversarial despot nation are more rational grounds to prevent someone from being president than those other things listed above.
     
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    typical........deflect from the actual issue so you don't have to address what actually happened. I dont twitter but if this is true it appears to be a lie...........but sure go after the use of the word allow :rolleyes: so friggin typical .........................squirrel
     
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    99% of right wing arguments have a basis around the concept of "concern trolling". Pretending they care about a concept like speech to deflect from the actual issue present.

    This is why I think everyone who is a moderate and left of center should just disarm their weapon of concern trolling by just going full in and saying stuff like "ya I think right wing white males should be banned from being president" and just flat out say "i don't care about your fake concerns". Just accept their claims about being commie authoritarians and go with it. It forces them to address the actual topic at hand. What they are hopping with concern trolling is you defending yourself from accusations of being a anti-speech person and forget about the actual issue in hand. They want you to be on the defensive defending your principles rather than discuss the topic at hand.

    It's actually a tactic the right uses successfully. They turn being labeled fascists into anime even though they actually do express many genuine fascist principles like spamming petty crime in NBA message boards to convince the public we need more "law and order".
     
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    @Scarface281 yeah you changed my mind. RFK is totally a Democrat.


     
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    LOL. According to what I read at Rolling Stone, his campaign claimed he misheard the question. Clearly he did not.

    Damn you RFK Jr. for being such a shitty candidate.

     
  15. rocketsjudoka

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    Sorry I missed this post earlier but I do like they term “concern trolling” and that seems a frequent tactic here by several posters.

    I disagree with what you are advocating as a response tactic as they would essentially push people to becoming more extreme the other way and ends up having to take positions out of reaction than out of principle.

    My own view is that overall it’s better to be true to yourself and argue from that position. This idea of playing a character online just seems
    Tedious to me and probably speaks more to perhaps how uninteresting someone’s actual
    life is.

    Also it’s not difficult to just doom scroll Twitter and YouTube and spam tweets and videos of “influencers” with the latest outrage of the day. That to me seems tedious also. Further while
    I will engage occasionally on topics of interests ultimately they seem to have more time and more volume on their hands so it’s often best just to scroll past them to engage.
     
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  16. Nook

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    Okay....... but a baby isn't viable outside the womb until 24 weeks.
     
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    RFK Jr. is dangerous.
     
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    Lmao

    He didnt say "a baby is viable outside at 3 months". Come on you're better than that Nook. don't fall for an NBC botched quote taken out of context. watch the video. she says "so you'd cap it at 15 weeks" and he says yes then she says "21 weeks" then he says yes. what he was trying to say is once a baby becomes viable outside the womb, then it should not be aborted but to leave it to the states (said this multiple times in the clip) and says it is the women's right in the videro multiple times (so funny seeing @FrontRunner post his campaign response like it was some clarification when he had already said that initially).

    he then also stated the fact that most abortions occur before that time anyway (over 90% do...). and it's is mostly poor Black and Hispanic women getting them (with Black women leading the way even though they are a single digit % of the population).

    Not saying you specifically, but I really think many people on this forum are stuck in their liberal White utopia world and don't see what Black churches are saying about the stat I just posted for example

    people can have their beliefs and opinions on when to abort a child. I see they mostly come from people without children. at 3 months I was seeing my child's little body form in ultrasounds. we still have those pictures up on our fridge.

    who is abortion really affecting after the first 3 months of pregnancy? who are the women getting abortions at the time after hearing heartbeats and seeing their baby's body? are we talking professional women with money who have better access to contraceptives? low-income working class women? I can understand health issues, but if you're aborting (let me say after the first trimester because someone will botch my quote) for convenience because you can no longer party all night, then that's absolutely crazy IMO and your priorities are all the way messed up. if after seeing the body, hearing the heartbeat, seeing the extremities, knowing the sex, etc., and you still do it? there is something else in your life that needs fixing let's be honest
     
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    what a lame attempt. all it takes is a few buzzwords to get folks going. "abortion" and "can't after x date" is lmao. folks don't care to watch how videos or see actual full quotes, or even look into what they're being fake mad about. the buzzfeed generation

    edit: it's clear to anyone why NBC and other outlets push anything negative about RFK Jr and take things out of context. pretty much every article starts with "anti-vaxxer". they got to try pushing that hard because they know the majority in this bell-curve of intelligence are going to discredit anybody the media calls an anti-vaxxer
     
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  20. fchowd0311

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    You understand the paradox of "leave it up to the states" and "its a women's right".

    A Democrat today would understand the paradoxical nature of those two statements. So ya, not a democrat.
     

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