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Robert F. Kennedy Jr. launches unlikely presidential bid as a Democrat

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  1. No Worries

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    The source of the quote is the issue.

    As if you did not know.

    I did not have … Virtue Signaling Nazis … on my bingo card.
     
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  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Dude is 69, he looks physically impressive you have to admit
     
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    It's actually inspirational (for someone who is 51 like me lol). Never too late to get in shape.
     
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  5. Os Trigonum

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    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-pa...-vaccines-a0cc68f0?mod=hp_opin_pos_6#cxrecs_s

    The Partisan Press Unwittingly Boosts RFK Jr.’s Campaign
    What good is a ‘fact check’ from news organizations with a record of promoting ideology over the truth?
    By Allysia Finley
    June 25, 2023 at 1:28 pm ET

    For a candidate with no chance, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is drawing a lot of media attention. Since the 69-year-old scion announced his candidacy on April 19, he has been dismissed and derided in the press, while consistently pulling about 20% support in Democratic primary polls.

    A New York Times news article described Mr. Kennedy as “a longtime amplifier and propagator of baseless theories, beginning nearly two decades ago with his skepticism about the result of the 2004 presidential election as well as common childhood vaccines,” and claimed “his audience for such misinformation ballooned during the coronavirus pandemic.”

    Much of this is true. Yet some of Mr. Kennedy’s “baseless” theories—say, that Covid lockdowns harmed lower-income Americans while enriching billionaires like Jeff Bezos—have a kernel of truth. They resonate with those who distrust what he calls a “corrupt merger of state and corporate power.”

    To describe Mr. Kennedy’s political views as heterodox is an understatement. He opposes flu and Covid vaccines, pharmaceutical companies, lockdowns, the administrative state, fossil fuels, global elites, gun restrictions, social-media censorship and U.S. assistance to Ukraine. He wants to “seal” the Mexican border permanently.

    Polls show Mr. Kennedy draws more support from Republicans and independents than from Democrats. According to a recent Quinnipiac poll,voters view him more favorably than not. The same isn’t true of other presidential contenders including Mr. Biden, Donald Trump, Ron DeSantis, Mike Pence and Nikki Haley. The Democratic dark horse’s strong show of support no doubt owes partially to his name recognition and to the public’s unfamiliarity with some of his positions.

    On the other hand, it’s also possible that some of his iconoclastic views appeal to the disaffected voters who form Mr. Trump’s base. In the aforementioned poll, Mr. Kennedy has a larger favorability margin than Mr. Trump among whites without college degrees. Perhaps they see Mr. Kennedy as a fighter for the common man against the “man” just as they once thought of the former president. Attempts by liberals to silence and discredit Mr. Kennedy merely enhance his appeal.

    Last week YouTube removed his 95-minute interview with Canadian psychologist Jordan Peterson. In a bit of irony, Mr. Peterson had noted in the interview that “YouTube has left me alone. It’s quite surprising.” After the video went viral, the site pulled it down citing its “vaccine misinformation policy.”

    Yet it wasn’t Mr. Kennedy’s well-worn criticisms of vaccines or his calling pharmaceutical companies a “criminal enterprise” that racked up clicks. It was his claim that chemicals in the water supply—specifically the herbicide atrazine—are driving an increase in “sexual dysphoria” that is causing boys to believe they are girls. “They’re swimming through a soup of toxic chemicals today, and many of those are endocrine disruptors,” Mr. Kennedy claimed.

    Journalists were quick to “fact check” him, noting that the frog study he cited as evidence wasn’t directly applicable to humans. That’s correct—but it was unusual to see the press shower a dubious environmental claim with appropriate skepticism. All too often they parrot such questionable assertions, including the notion that chemicals disrupt hormones.

    Liberals deride Mr. Kennedy for his antivaccine activism, but it flows from the same fanatical font as the environmental zealotry they too have embraced. No doubt the mainstream press would deny the similarity, but Mr. Kennedy affirms it. In interviews he has traced his vaccine activism to his work on mercury pollution from coal plants, which he claims based on thin evidence cause brain damage and cancer. He also claims a tenuous link between thimerosal, a mercury-containing preservative used in some vaccines, and childhood autism.

    Most of his claims about vaccine dangers aren’t any kookier than those that he and his green allies have made about fossil fuels. Both are based on flawed research and ignore countervailing evidence. But only Mr. Kennedy’s vaccine claims are fact-checked and suppressed. Americans have no doubt picked up on this disparate treatment.

    Progressive beliefs, no matter how preposterous, are beyond question. Views that cut against the grain, even those that are scientifically well-founded, are silenced and labeled as “misinformation.” Justified criticisms of Covid lockdowns have been peremptorily dismissed as “baseless” in much the same way as Mr. Kennedy’s questionable vaccine claims.

    The press has become so partisan that it has lost all credibility with a large share of the public. As a result, Americans don’t trust the media to tell them what’s true and not, and they’ve become more susceptible to falsehoods from other sources. This trust vacuum together with social-media censorship fuels public cynicism and candidates who seek to exploit it.

    Like Mr. Trump, Mr. Kennedy gives voice to Americans who feel scorned, silenced and dismissed. “They tried to ignore me and that strategy has failed,” Mr. Kennedy tweeted on June 15. “Now their coordinated attacks in Time, WaPo, NYT, Guardian, etc. using the same language exposes fear in the ranks of the corporate oligarchy.”

    There’s a sliver of truth to this, but the real problem is the merger of politicized media with leftist government.

    Appeared in the June 26, 2023, print edition as 'The Partisan Press Unwittingly Boosts RFK Jr.’s Campaign'.



     
  6. CCorn

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    Ah. More closet homosexuality. Do you.
     
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  7. JuanValdez

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    RFK is the new Tulsi Gabbard.
     
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    Can't take a vaccine but unregulated "supplements" and testosterone are just AOK
     
  9. Buck Turgidson

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    What good is a ‘fact check’ from news organizations with a record of promoting ideology over the truth?

    I'm proud of the WSJ and NewsCorp for being so introspective.
     
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    you know RFK is gaining ground when deb starts posting tweets comparing him to Trump

    #KennedyDerangementSyndrome
     
  11. NewRoxFan

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    I believe he and his family took the vaccine.
     
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    And we know he's a far right goon when you start propagating on behalf of him.
     
  13. Os Trigonum

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    you keep using that word copy.gif
     
  14. dobro1229

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    I think you don't understand alot of things. Since you obviously are confused, I would think of it in the context of a plant budding, or growing. Meaning there is bullsh$t right wing propaganda out there. You take that propaganda aimed to damage liberals, and you try to take it, and grow it in another place.... like a Houston basketball forum.

    Do you comprehend now, or do I need to use pictures instead of big boy words?
     
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    pictures. pictures would be good
     
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  17. dobro1229

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    Someone want to explain to me again why running as a third party candidate as a right wing conspiracy theory nut helps Trump and hurts Biden?? I'm still just sort of baffled by the logic here.
     
  18. Os Trigonum

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    the babes love a Kennedy
     
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    Honestly I'd suspect RFK Jr. would be a more likely candidate for a bloot clot and stroke than Hotez. It's odd the same people praising his physique which he likely is maintaining through TRT and HGH are the same audience against hormone therapy for trans people. Just be consistent. Grown men can take over the counter dick hardening pills, Rogaine or Forhims, over the counter antidepressants, can get a script for HGH and TRT from one of those quack facilities and that's all perfectly fine. The fragile egos of flaccid men aging must be preserved! Medicare will even cover it!

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    I love how this right-winger tries to connect being an anti-vaxxer to being an environmentalist.
     

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