Robert F. Kennedy Jr. launches unlikely presidential bid as a Democrat

It's possible you haven't heard, but:

Former NH House Speaker, Steve Shurtleff, who was a Biden delegate in 2020, said he'd support a different candidate if Biden removed their primary status. A Biden Delegate - not a Bernie Bro.

Moving SC to #1 was 100% a move to help Biden. The Biden admin doesn't even really contest that.

 

I love his videos and he's been very supportive of the ftc. He isn't bashing the ftc he's upset that their moving too slowly....I don't think he understands how the government works. Biden just signed the executive order last year.

 

Hahahahhaaha giving black voters the opportunity to elect their canidate first is called rigging hahahahaa. Oh my God. Allowing voters of color whom make up the majority of the party to go first isn't called "rigging" lolol. Allowing white voters in Iowa who will never vote Democrat to vote first is what you all rigging.

Progressives and bernie bros have never been able to win the Black vote so of course you'll call it "rigging".

Good God you lefties sound exactly like @Commodore and MAGA. The exact same ****ing cloth

 

This is a reminder that if the democratic party receives less than 85% from the African American electorate they will never win a national election. The African American demo is what makes up the democratic base and without black voters the democrats will be absolutely no where.

The idea that the DNC is "rigging" the process by allowing their base to vote first tells you the amount of respect white progressives have for black voters.

Progressives and lefties will never will win the auntie vote. Never

 

If they were doing it for demographic reasons, then why not Nevada? Why not Michigan? Come on. They are more respresentative.

I'm not saying Iowa or NH are anything special or magical. I would love for our endless corn/ethanol subsidies to end even if it pisses off Iowans.

Anyway, Congressman James Klyburn - who is black, of course - is also aware of what is going on:

This is about helping Biden. That's all.

 

LMAOOOOOOO . Hey buddy what number did they move Nevada and Michigan too on the primary calender ? LOL good God you're embarrassing yourself. Did they move Michigan nd nevada to the beginning of the primary calender also?

You keep beating around the bush. WHY IS SOUTH CAROLINA SAFE FOR BIDEN??

Is it black voters support biden more than anyone else? Wow! Shocking news ! You CAN NOT win the endorsement if you don't have black support. Candidates should put up or shut up.

You calling it "rigging" by allowing black voters to go first just shows your whiteness on display.

 

So just to recap, you have no response to anything James Clyburn and the 2020 Biden delegate are saying. I'm just relaying what they said.

It's ok to admit the obvious, friend. Santa isn't real. Sometimes people act in their own self-interest. Biden is a human. His admin is made up of humans.

 

Funny how you had NO IDEA that biden also moved Nevada and Michigan to the beginning of the primary calender as well. It's truly amazing how clueless folks are before they talk about a topic.

The bottom line is progressives and lefties have no way of winning over old black voters whom make up the base of the party. The democratic party isn't made up of woke coffee moms that @AroundTheWorld likes to talk about. The base of the party doesn't give a **** about leftie grievances.

Calling it "rigged" just means you're downplaying the intelligence of black voters. Black voters have saved America time after time. They deserve to have their voices heard first. Period

 

I was talking about moving one of them to #1 rather than SC. If I was unclear then I apologize for my miscommunication.

But that isn't the point, here. The point was that this move was made to help Biden. I provided words from pro-Biden people who assert that as well. You are refusing to address that.

If you're saying it's all about demographics, then why was Clyburn lying? Why did he say it was about Biden avoiding embarrassment? I didn't even share the whole quote, but right after that he said something like "and that's what he should do." So he's saying that Biden is rigging the primary to avoid embarrassment and that's a good thing. Now, why would he lie about that? I can't think of a good reason.

 

First 5 DEM primaries

• 2020: IA > NH > NV > SC > AL
• 2024: SC > NH and NV > GA > MI

NH was 2nd and is still 2nd.

Although this was done before Biden (or anyone) announced, there are rarely ever any serious primary challenges to an incumbent running for re-election. The DNC did this for other reasons, not to "rig" it for Biden. If they did "rig" it, it was unnecessary. He faced no credible challenge.

No. RFK Jr doesn't stand a chance.

Biden +50s nationally vs RFK
Biden +58 in Iowa vs RFK
There is no polling for NH yet involving RFK.

 

It's so embarrassing watching progressives have no respect for black voters. It's appalling. I see the same thing in Indiana. Black voters have had their voices suppressed their entire lives in this country. The idea that empowering black voters is somehow called rigging is so disgusting and appalling.

Instead of calling it "rigging" ask yourself why black voters support biden? It's disgusting how white progressives are demeaning to the base of the party.

Black voters saved this country in 2020. It wasn't white folks or any other race. Black voters saved America from MAGA in 2020. Period

 

Everyone counts. It wasn't just Black, but Black of course is a critical support group for Dem.

If it was for black voters, moving SC up is fine. But I would have moved GA up instead (which they did also). It's a critical battle state with a higher % of black voters than SC.

In fact, I would prioritize order based on importance of battleground states. But that's just me.

 

I was surprised to read the headline. It's a recent Axios article.

 

Maybe you can help. Why did James Clyburn say DNC moved SC to the front to save Biden from embarrassment? Did he say that because it's the truth? Or did he lie? And if it's a lie, why would he lie about that?

 

This makes no sense. In a corporation or business the largest stakeholders and share holders have the biggest voice in the company or have the most members on a board. The idea we shouldn't prioritize voters who make up the bedrock of the party is insane and makes no sense

 

Clyburn doesn't work for the administration nor does he work for the DNC. Clyburn never said the party was rigging the primaries. You keep pivoting to Clyburn instead of focusing on what you said.

It's not just you but a leftie thing. I see this all the time at lefties not appreciating the base of the party. They take black voters for granted

 

I dont know what people say about people like you that are so certain that they are right about EVERYTHING. I bet they say something though.

 

Huh? When have I claimed I've been right about everything? I'm fairly clueless about alot of topics. I have little knowledge regarding alot of things like technology. I don't think of myself as smarter than anyone else on these forums. I just love to read and stay informed on topics I enjoy talking about. I read alot and others should try it. It helps with the conspiracies

 

I got what you are saying. At the same time the example above you are 100% adamant about Claybern or whatever his name is and why he said that about SC. You seem real real sure about what you’re saying. But believe it or not you actually don’t know for sure and are giving an opinion. It may be an educated one buttttt still an opinion about something you don’t know for sure.

 

No, I don't think he's lying. He has an old-school perspective, and I believe he believes that if a strong candidate were to run against Biden, there is a chance of Biden losing in IA and/or NH (the embarrassment). That's his opinion. In today's politics, where voters are more strategic in their choices, I doubt that would actually come into play. Even if it did, Biden could choose to simply skip IA/NH. As we have seen in the 2020 election and previous modern elections, IA/NH doesn't have a significant impact on determining the eventual Democratic primary winner.