[Rivals.Yahoo] A tidibt about Budinger and racial stereotype

When he means racial stereotype, does he mean white, or does he mean ginger?

 

I don't care whether he is black, white, green, red, or yellow, I like the way he plays.

 

Obviously stereotypes suck for everyone in some way. So to be serious.......
Who's blacker Shane, Bud, Andersen or Yao?

 

Hmm... maybe the Rox will draft JEREMY LIN!!! (coz I'm sure he's going to be a victim of the same stereotypes Chase faced and should be available in the 2nd round)

http://www.slamonline.com/online/college-hs/college/2010/03/is-jeremy-lin-a-pro/

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1951044,00.html

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=oneil_dana&id=4730385

http://dimemag.com/2009/12/harvards-jeremy-lin-torches-uconn-for-30/

But seriously... if you think Chase had a hard time... can you imagine what Jeremy Lin is going thru???

 

Wow. I read the time article. Racism, stereotyping is indeed alive in this country. You would think that some of the things Mr. Lin was called was a thing of the past, but ignorance is indeed bliss.

 

Yep. America is an extremely racist country. And I've seen some of worst parts of it. It's a shame it's not frowned upon more, but this country moves slowly. And I think for even smaller minorities it's worse.
In regards to Lin, ignoring it and taking the high road is fantastic...to a point. But when a guy calls you a chink to your face....you kick his ass. I know, violence is wrong...but?

 

It's not about black or white, if Chase was European he'd have been a top 10 pick (if he was handled correctly by agents).

So the discrimination comes against American white guys. Chase needs to blame guys like Joe Alexander, Adam Morrison, JJ Redick, Mike Dunleavy, if those guys had done well as NBA players and lived up to their draft positions, Chase would certainly have gone higher.

 

Joe Alexander is a Chinese "white" guy.

 

Hayden, this is getting awfullly close to Off Topic, but I hope Clutch will give me some leeway. For the young ones, do you know why Representative John Lewis is considered a hero of the civil rights movement?

Mr. Lewis was part of the Freedom Fighters, a group of folks who travelled by bus to the most segregated parts of the deep South in the early 60's, peacefully defying then current segregation laws (e.g. bathrooms, restaurants, etc..).

Mr. Lewis and many of his friends were often beaten with lead pipes, spit upon, called names, but they never fought back, because they knew it that if they were to physically retaliate, the Civil Rights Act may never become law.

That was nearly 50 years ago, and race relations have gotten better, we still see Jeremy Lins around us.

 

Point taken. But perhaps we would travel different roads on this one.
Maybe?

 

See, I would probably react the same way you do. That's why those guys (and gals) are in the history books as heroes. BTW, there were many a white person in those buses. They too were beaten.

This is my last post on this matter, and it was meant to perhaps explain Mr. Lin's apparent lack of response to racism towards him, though the Time article states he does take it hard afterwards.

 

Im pretty sure the obvious answer is Shane.

JJ redick was only the 11th pick, and hes playing 22mins a game for a championship calibur team.

and Mike Dunleavy was good before he was injured.

 

Didn't Shane Battier also talk about the fact that starting in the NBA, black players didn't consider him black enough because of his background etc.?

Racial and cultural stereotypes exist because they make it easier for us to navigate through life's various situations. Of course, being generalities, there are always exceptions to the stereotype. The thing is to be able to deal with the evidence on hand and reject the stereotype if the evidence calls for it.

Most people, I guess, want to fall back to the comfort of the stereotype and don't want their expectations challenged. That's the sad part. But CBud can do a lot to help modify those stereotypes. Or maybe he is the exceptions that "proves" the rule/stereotype

 

budinger didnt fall to the 2nd round because hes white...

the end

 

Um, I'm not a behevioral expert or anything, but IMHO stereotypes are there because once a upon a time it was true for a fairly large amount of people. Most people assume that white men can't jump because the fact is black people are generally more athletic than white people. Its not racist at all, its fact, just like saying most chinese people have slanted eyes or yellow skin or whatever. There's a reason why black people dominate almost all sports in America (baseball, football, basketball etc.), and its not due to coincidence. They just have better genes physically speaking. Obviously its not true for each and every instance, but people do have an excuse for being surprised that a white guy like Chase is pretty athletic. And to be fair, its not like Chase is DH athletic, he has mad hops but the lateral quickness is nothing to write home about.

 

LOL the primary reason why Chase slipped is because he fades in games, and not because he was white. He was nearly invisible all season long and only picked his game up after a guy stepped on his face during a game. Guys who were dominant in college end up being busts, what more a guy who had a reputation for being disappearing? If he had performed like Melo then he would have picked in the lottery no matter what his skin color was.

In fact, my opinion is being white actually helps rather than hinder your draft chances. People are always looking for that next "Larry Bird" almost as much as they look for that next MJ. Adam Morrison had no business being a top 3 pick but due to his rep as the next Bird and his scorer rep he got picked up by MJ. Its debatable but IMHO a big factor in Bird's decision for taking Hansbrough was because he was white as well.

 

What Bud is saying is true... Seriously, a LATE 2nd Rounder? Everyone knew of his talent... Something held them back from taking him. Bud has shown more than most of the lottery picks, and we have one of those guys. We had to trade for him so he could get a chance to play.

 

IMO, If Chase were an African American, he would have been a lottery pick. The Joe Alexander situation the year before probably scared NBA GM's.

Look, at the end of the day, who cares?

We got Chase, he is in the NBA, and everyone is talking about what a steal he is.

Rockets win !

DD

 

I never thought of chase as just a white guy and I'm sure scouts didn't either. Chase fell in the draft, but really, there isn't much difference from about 16-40 something. Chase has alot of physical tools, people just questioned his toughness. His toughness will continue to be questioned like most nba players until those questions are answered. Its really no different than when the undersized pf started going in the 2nd rd because the didn't shoot 3's like the euro 7 ft ers. Boozer,milsap,landry,blair, and guys like that had 1st rd production and talent, but went in the 2nd rd because guys like bargini and skita were small forward type of power forwards. Mike miller and brent barry went high in the draft as well as wally and joe alexander. I don't think it has anything to do with him being white.