Teams accept to pay dead money for guys like Biedrins, Gerald Wallace, Okafor, and the Jeffersons of the league. For Omer 15M is not so far his market value, look at Petkovic/Bogut.
Exactly. The emergence of Jones has been huge on a number of levels. We don't need to trade Omer for some 2nd rate deal when we have Jones performing at a high level and Omer seemingly happy.
This is a cleverly disguised ploy by one GM to drive down Asik's value. I would guess Sam Presti is trying to get revenge for the Harden trade.
The key question is: Will Omer pout if he isn't eventually traded? Is he only playing nice now because he has a promise from Morey? What happens if he's still here in January? If he accepts his backup role, I'm not sure we need a trade. But it would be nice to see a few more weeks of TJ in the starting role.
Morey knows exactly what he is doing. Basically he is refusing to trade Asik unless there is an offer he cant refuse. Asik helps us win and preserve Dwight in the meantime. Also, if what he wants is 100 dollars in assets or players for asik, he will ask 125-150 dollars until a team offers 100, then he will accept. Nothing new
Firstly Asik is soft as ****, when you're earning those sort of dollars just stop your crying and earn yourself back into the lineup. That being said McHale and Howard have done a wonderful job making sure the baby knows he can earn minutes if he plays well, Howard has been the complete opposite to Asik when being benched, cheering the team on and well done to McHale for sticking to lineups that work. At the end of the day Asik is the best backup center in the league right now, playing behind the best center and quality bigs are gold come playoffs.
I think it's a cleverly disguised ploy by Morey... I think he's asking for too much to avoid having to have to trade Asik. It may be bette to wait until after the season to trade Asik. They may be able to trade into the lottery with him.
That would be sick. Omer + our 1st and 2nd rounders this year to trade up for a wing defender or Daunte Exum. But, I think you have a better chance of trading into the lottery in mid season, when teams don't know exactly what pick they'll get.
Keep in mind Asik is only paid $5M this year so whoever trades for him will only have to pay his remaining prorated salary for the rest of the season which will be a couple million. I wonder if the Rockets could throw some money or did they already spend the $3M allotment with the Royce White trade? Still it will take a not so cheap owner to fork over a $15M check to Asik next season. It will have to be one who understands the value of not having to pay him much this year and that can afford to put it off till next year.
I love that Morey is delusional - otherwise we wouldn`t have gotten Harden - or T-Rob (although that one only worked out in getting cap room and some small assets). He almost always seems to get the better end of a deal because he has such high expectations of what to get. And if 30 GMs say he is delusional and 1 says, well that might work, than he has another great deal for us in the books. Never settle unless you absolutely have to, always aim big.
Crash's exactly right in his explanation. The Luxury Tax threshold is different than being over the cap. Asik only counts for $8.3M in computing team salary/luxury tax. If NO is currently at $65M then they are over the cap but under the luxary cap apron so they would owe no tax. If they were to trade Asik for Anderson then they would be sending out roughly the same amount of salary as they receive so they would end up again above the cap and below the tax threshold so they wouldn't owe taxes. The important point is that for the purpose of team salary (i.e. if you are over the cap or over the tax line), Asik only counts $8.3M. The remaining $6.7M certainly comes out of his owner's pocket but as far as any cap or tax calculation it is like it doesn't exist. Nice job Crash!
I think people just dont want to get out-smarted by Morey. At least, the haters from around the league. Morey somehow ends up getting the bigger end of the stick in most trades he has made
To be fair... we don't know what Morey is asking for Asik. Maybe it really is delusional what he's asking for.
Given Morey's track record on trades, I'm more than willing to give Morey the benefit of the doubt and see what he actually ends up getting in terms of a trade haul. Trading with Morey is feared by fans of many teams across the league because they believe he'll either dominate them in a trade, or that they'll never get a good deal with Morey because he's too smart to give them a good deal. Really, look at forums from other teams when they talk about trading with Morey. The sentiments range from, "Don't trade with Morey he'll rob us blind!" to "I wouldn't expect more than fair value in a trade with Morey, he's actually smart." The measure of Morey is not what GM's think at the beginning of the trade season, but what they eventually give to Morey at the end of the day. In Morey we Trust.
We obviously don't know what the asking price for Asik would be but for those that are pointing at his $15M actual salary next season think about this: If you were to acquire Asik halfway through the season then his new team would owe him approximately $2.5M this year and $15M next season. That's $17.5M in actual dollars for a year and a half of Asik. That means that even in real dollars you'd be paying him $11.66M/year for the next year and a half. Now, what type of salary do you think that Asik would command on the open market today? Is $11.66M out of line? Probably not. Now factor in that he's only counting $8.3M against next year's cap and that's a very good deal.
When negotiating, you don't start at the point where you want to end up. Chances are, Morey is purposely asking for more than he's wanting to get. Start high... others start low... then meet somewhere near fair market value in the middle.
