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RIP GOP PARTY 1854-2016 - GOP Appreciation thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by IBTL, May 3, 2016.

  1. Dubious

    Dubious Contributing Member

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    In a binary political system, you either own the demographic or you adopt the opposing position. God, guns and gays is still a popular enough position that a buyer can at least effect grid-lock if not still out right own the Congress. You guys are jumping way ahead to think that the GOP is going away on a regional level. Ms. Clinton can do nothing, and they can run against her for doing nothing. Gridlocked retention of the financial gains made since Reagan has always been the goal, social hot buttons are just the means.
     
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  2. Northside Storm

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    Find the X supremacist groups supporting Hillary.

    Find the Martian supremacist groups.

    Find any significant supremacist group.

    Thanks.

    Then let's compare to the x% of so of white supremacists in the Republican party primary process. thanks for not denying the obvious racism though, I'll give you a hattip for that if nothing else.
     
  3. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Obama and Clinton are about as center as it gets. Despite what the conservative media machine enjoys spewing out, Obama and Clinton are nowhere near being liberals. They're corporate Democrats.
     
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  4. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL, Rush Limbaugh is about as center as it gets too. Does saying ridiculous things make them true in your world?
     
  5. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    You're the king of saying ridiculous things ad nauseam so maybe you should answer your own question.
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

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    I'm not the one trying to say that Obama and Hillary are "as center as it gets" with a straight face. The fact that you don't know that statement is laughably inaccurate kind of says all anyone would need to know about you.
     
  7. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    You enjoy just tossing out labels pre-emptively to steer a conversation. Substantiate their liberal status or just slink away. Bernie dominates the liberal Democratic vote. If anyone knows who is a liberal it's a liberal.

    The fact that you post on this site twenty times a day for years and have consistently advocated the killing of innocent people in a flippant manner says you're a, likely, unemployed sociopath. You've consistently displayed little regard for human life. It's freaking disturbing. See how easy it is to talk **** to someone? The only difference between what we've both said is that my comments about you are factually accurate. You literally cannot post without insulting someone and coming off as incredibly arrogant even when you are completely ignorant about what you're talking about. Work on that, kid.
     
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  8. Bobbythegreat

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    Bernie is a fringe left candidate, that doesn't mean that Hillary and especially Obama aren't pretty far to the left too. Just because you can name an extremist that is more extreme doesn't change where someone stands. They are both significantly to the left.
     
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  9. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Just more of your ignorant opinions. Bernie Sanders has won 15 states. That's not fringe. He's won more states than Cruz and Kasich combined. Just stop.
     
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  10. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    It's a scientific fact that white people cannot be racist. White people invented racism, and both science and religion say you can't be what you invent, ergo white people can't be racist.

    #TrumpLogic
     
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  11. Bobbythegreat

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    That's just a reaction to Hillary being an awful candidate and there only being 2 to choose from. Anyway, I don't expect anything intelligent from you so carry on.
     
  12. rimrocker

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    Quick history lesson:

    19th Century Democrats were indeed a bunch of racists. As time went on and the 20th Century started, the Democrats became an unwieldy majority coalition of northern liberal urban and southern conservative. Eventually, the liberal side won and the Democratic Party began supporting Civil Rights in earnest. When Brown v. Board of Education happened, the split accelerated, most visible in the career of Strom Thurmond, who went from Democrat to Independent to Republican. See also George Wallace, though he eventually had a reckoning later in life. The folks who left the Democratic Party over race eventually ended up in the Republican Party (see Jesse Helms, obviously, and Trent Lott, he of the Council of Conservative Citizens). Even more, they justified the opposition to Civil Rights by resurrecting the basic concepts of John C. Calhoun's nullification/states rights defense of slavery and that has been part of the Republican DNA ever since.
     
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  13. Cohete Rojo

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    If we can come to an agreement on a framework as to what "the death of the GOP" means, then I would be open to making a tip jar bet.

    This is greatly exaggerated.
     
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  14. rimrocker

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    I doubt it will be a Whig like demise and quick new party birth, mainly because there's not an issue like slavery (Dems own warming - because science - which is the only issue with massive societal change potential) and I don't see Abe Lincoln walking around anywhere wearing a tri-corner hat and yelling about a wall. I do think that over the course of the next several cycles the Republican Party will have to realign. The problem is they are now losing huge sums from their investment in crazy and that debt must be paid with interest. That brings up the possibility of a split into, for lack of better identifiers, social Cons and fiscal Cons. If that is the case, it may take longer than a few cycles and what comes out may have a different name.
     
  15. Invisible Fan

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    ^The aforementioned Citizens United decision means that mob-like populism will be here to stay as unlimited money + fanatical devotion to an interest (3 Gs) means there will be 50 little fires to stomp out with dumbass radio and news channels beating the drum of idiocy as a badge of truth.

    Even with a big wall and spiteworthy tariffs people still have to come to grips with automation eliminating jobs across a broad spectrum of industries.

    An irony will be old people complaining about not being able to retire while they hold jobs generations of unemployed youth would jump on. It's usually the young who are more likely to take risks in their money and ideas, so as much as these crotchety bastards complain how entitled the young are while sitting on their wheelchairs, it's their pension funds and previous excess that are draining the nation's future and vitality.
     
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  16. dandorotik

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    You mean the intelligent guy who says he's going to use NAFTA as a primary case against HRC because her husband was responsible for it???

    Boy, if no one's ever told you this, you really are a certified ****ing dolt. Education is a good thing.
     
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    he is not so sure if Trump is an intelligent person

     
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  18. okierock

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    You and I both know that the same question asked of a different racial group would be answered similarly... Is it racist that only white people were asked this question?

    As far as your supremacist group strawman, who do the black panthers support?
     
  19. ima_drummer2k

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    I like how the talk radio robots are now saying that winning in November is more important than having (what they consider) a "true" conservative as the nominee.

    :confused:

    Where was this narrative 4 months ago when they first started all this "establishment vs. non-establishment" nonsense that blew any chance the GOP had of winning the general?
     
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  20. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Who are you listening to? Berry, Beck and Levin are NeverTrump and Rush is 50/50. There was a mad caller on Michael Berry's show that called him an idiot for not backing Trump against Hillary. They are eating themselves on the right.
     

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