Damn. Now Ricky will only play for "da Raidazzz" This is getting sickening. It's getting tougher and tougher to defend my fellow Longhorn.
Raiders a high class organization with an owner who is very committed to winning football games, nothing wrong with that.
No, but for us outsiders, it now looks like Williams "retired" b/c he was sick of being overworked by the Dolphins and was just trying to force his way out of town to play somewhere else. I trashed Eli Manning for doing the same thing, and sadly it looks like I must trash my boy, my main man, my favorite football player, Ricky.
Ricky, if you don’t like your job you don’t retire. You just go in every day and do it really half-assed. That’s the American way.
You can't compare a job as a professional athlete to a regular job. The environments, rules, regulations and systems are way too different to draw comparisons.
I would hardly think that one person in sports is what has caused Max to come to those conclusions. Merely helps support a general feeling that he has. Williams certainly helps to support that conclusion. Now he wants to totally backtrack and say maybe the Raiders next year...certainly more approving of his 'lifestyle'. He screwed his current team, drug use seems at least to be a part of it, and I don't think the 'free spirit' defense is enough.
Rokkit, you know what I find most ridiculous about that conclusion. I started a thread about Leonard Little KILLING someone drunk driving, and then after never going to prison, getting charged with DUI three years later. No one in that thread said anything about alcoholism. What is more worse, a guy quitting a meaningless game, or someone ending a life. But the anti mar1juana people want to jump on this story like it really proves drugs are bad because a guy decided not to play a sport. Its not like he gave up searching for a cure for cancer. Max bringing up Andymoon is kind of ironic, because I think Andymoon would point out the ridiculous of someone trying to use this to prove anything about mar1juana. How many players do you think smoke mar1juana. Has mar1juana ever affected Ricky's play. He only broke the College all time yardage rushing record. He only led the lead in rushing two years ago. He's only one of the top players at his position. Yeah, mar1juana has been really detrimental to his career.
I don't think Max or anyone else is saying smoking pot is the only reason Ricky quit, but it is obviously part of the problem. I'm starting to think that Ricky might be hurting physically (shoulder etc.) in addition to hating the smash mouth football style Miami loves to play and just wanted out. We will see if he comes back next year in Oakland.
Well, that pretty much proves...nothing. It's dead obvious the dangers of alcoholism, and the fact that he was drunk led directly to the death. It's obvious. It goes without saying. Now someone saying, well, alcohol didn't really cause the problem...chance is you would have had a much bigger deal in that thread if someone had said that. So I don't really know what your point is there. In any case, I didn't say mar1juana was the be-all, end-all culprit here. In fact, I feel it's a combination of things...and agree with a lot of what underoverup said. But you're being naive if you don't think there is a relation there. And automatically the 'defenders' of it jump all over it, trying to dispel the notion. There is a reality here, and it's a combination of lots of things...and just as there are folks who will point to those who say drug use isn't harming them, there are lots who will point to examples where it is. Which is what Max was reading. It works both ways.
With the alcohol discussion, I'm just pointing out the ridiculousness of banning a substance that has never proved to be threatening to health as opposed to having alcohol legal. My point on Ricky is that if he retired to smoke weed who cares. Its his decision. If he retired to surf, who cares. If he retired to be a p*rn star, who cares? the fact that he retired only proves that he likes to get high. It doesn't prove that it has been detrimental to his career. Just because we have an obsession with a freakin sport, doesn't mean he should. That's our values. Yes, it may make his decision more trivial, but really, its only as trivial as playing a sport for a living. You keep saying mar1juana has been harmful. How is retiring from football harmful? Killing someone drunk driving is harmful. Now do you see how it relates?
WARNING DND Type commentary below...only marginally Ricky related. Alcohol is a potent, dangerous, addictive and potentially lethal drug. I have used it since the age of about 15 and I have misused it for several years in my early twenties. I don't smoke pot with any degree of regularity so my knowlege is mostly second hand. But EVERYONE I know who uses Marajuana more frequently than a couple times a year, does so daily or nearly so if finances/availability permit. I have also noticed a marked reluctance on the part of my friends who use MJ to attend social functions where they can't partake. Most of those I know over the age of 40 who smoke dope daily and have done so for most of their adult lives, tend to repeat ancedotes I have heard hundreds of times in the past....as if they aren't aware I have heard the stories before. I have no trouble believing that Ricky would give up his profession in part because of the wacky weed...because I have seen a number of people give up a lot of activities they liked because they would rather smoke the ganja. Now I am sure other factors are involved. I just don't think there is any drug you can use regularly safely, however it is an individuals right to use said substances. Wow...long winded...decending from soapbox.
Not really. I never said mar1juana has been harmful to ricky williams. I just said that's what it appears Max is reading/the stance he gathers from the issue. Though on the 'if he retired to smoke weed' who cares. That would entirely depend if that is the reason. It's nice that he made millions off 'just playing the game.' If it's health issues, that's one thing. If he does that because he wanted to smoke weed....you really don't see anything wrong with that? If that is really the reason he reached his conclusion - and again, I'm not exactly sure drug use is the main reason - but if it is, you're right, it's not harmful (well, I guess the Dolphins might disagree)... ...it's just pathetic.
thanks, p. i wasn't making an argument. just saying how this story further affects my own perception. a perception not colored only by ricky williams buy by the experiences of some of my friends, as well. i made no absolute statements about it at all. in my post to RM95 i admitted that i personally don't know much about mar1juana, frankly. turn to your right and argue with the wall if you're that argumentative.
I don't know if this has been posted yet, but I found it to be particularly hilarious. http://www.screwricky.com/
