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Ricky Rubio : New York, Miami or Boston.

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Octavianus, Jan 23, 2011.

  1. BasketballMind

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    Signed,

    Kobe
     
  2. showtang043

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    If I am him, i wouldn't want to goto Minny either, not bc of the city, but the system. If he wants the opportunity to play his game and he is not a traditional pg, he is like rondo where he is not a scorer or shooter, but can control the game if you put it in his hands. He needs that freedom and a triangle offense is horrible for him and it just won't be a good fit. You take rondo and put him on the lakers and it would not be pretty bc of the spacing and goals of that offense. same for rubio,he needs a team that will let him have freedom to run it.
     
  3. A_3PO

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    If he wants to continue playing in Euroleague and avoid the highest level of basketball, he should just stay and hang out on the beaches.

    I used to be very anxious for Rubio to come over but now I don't give a care anymore.
     
  4. desi tmac91

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    Its the New York Times ffs...how gullible are you people?
     
  5. DCHAMP

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    i never wanted him even though he looks like a pretty good player....seems like a drama queen....
     
  6. rju1986

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    Rubio is a scrub :p and is overrated on this board.
     
  7. Clips/Roxfan

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    He’s 20. Is Rubio’s Fine Future in the Past?

    By JONATHAN GIVONY
    Published: January 22, 2011


    Rarely would a 20-year-old basketball player be considered over the hill.

    But Ricky Rubio set the bar high for himself with his precocious play. Along the way, he has won championships at every level. Rubio made his professional debut at 14 with DKV Joventut in the ACB league of Spain, mesmerizing spectators with his creativity and basketball acumen.

    In 2009, the Minnesota Timberwolves selected him fifth over all in the N.B.A. draft. He elected to stay in Spain, moving across town to F.C. Barcelona, one of the most prominent basketball teams in Europe.

    The team won a Euroleague title last season with Rubio playing a somewhat secondary role. For much of the decisive action of the Euroleague Final Four, he watched from the bench. Rubio was just a rookie at this level, and people said he still had a lot to learn.

    Last summer, Rubio had a golden opportunity to showcase himself as the future of Spanish basketball, playing for the national team in the world championships in Turkey. With Toronto Raptors point guard Jose Calderon out with an injury and Pau Gasol electing to stay home after winning an N.B.A. title with the Los Angeles Lakers, this was Rubio’s ship to steer.

    Instead, Rubio struggled. He shot 28 percent from the field, including 2 of 17 from 3-point range, and averaged 4 points in 25 minutes over nine games. Spain, the defending champion, lost in the quarterfinals. For the first time, cracks began to appear in the Rubio hype machine.

    “I didn’t feel good last summer,” Rubio said last month in a postgame interview in Vilnius, Lithuania. “I was nervous. That was the first time I didn’t play well. It was an experience for me. It helped me to learn, to appreciate when things go well that you’re doing the good stuff; when things go wrong, you have to learn, to practice more, to improve more.”

    Though 28 games in the 2010-11 season, Rubio has continued to struggle. He is shooting just 32 percent from the field, including 11 of 61 from beyond the arc, and his team has lost more games in the ACB and in the Euroleague than it did all of last season.

    Why has Rubio’s development stalled?

    Will he be able to turn his potential into production?

    Always the youngest pro player on the court, Rubio found it natural to act as a selfless distributor and to defer to those with seniority. That is a defining characteristic of European basketball, particularly in Spain, where it is considered disrespectful for an individual to put himself above the team. Most Valuable Player awards are for the American leagues. All that matters are wins and losses.

    That mind-set was a big part of Rubio’s upbringing and could be a major reason he is having a hard time taking the reins for Barcelona. The concept of team has been so ingrained that he appears hesitant to put his teammates on his back.

    Among all the magical passes, the biggest complaint about Rubio’s game is that he is too unselfish for his own good.

    “I try to help the team,” Rubio said. “It doesn’t matter if you have to score 50 points or zero. If I help the team, I don’t think of my stats.”

    The best boon to his development might be to play in the N.B.A., where the best point guards are not only great passers but are also able to carry a team with their scoring. In the more-wide-open N.B.A. style, Rubio could flourish.

    The Timberwolves continue to push him toward the N.B.A. as soon as possible, contending privately that they have a commitment from him for next season. But Rubio’s camp does not appear to be convinced.

    “The bottom line is, why would he want to play in Minnesota?” a senior member of Rubio’s camp said this month. “He’ll continue to say all the diplomatic things, and Minnesota needs to keep his value up for trade purposes, but the family’s preference is to be on the East Coast, specifically New York, Miami or Boston. He wouldn’t be troubled if he has to stay another year.”

    But the Timberwolves have leverage. They hold his exclusive draft rights, meaning they are the only N.B.A. team with whom he can negotiate. Their latest strategy in trying to persuade Rubio to sign may center on the possible N.B.A. lockout of players after the collective bargaining agreement expires June 30. The terms of the new agreement will probably be significantly less favorable for rookies.

    According to Larry Coon, an expert on the collective bargaining agreement, Rubio has the option of signing his rookie contract until June 30. Under the terms of the current agreement, that deal would begin in 2011-12 and run through 2014-15, with the final two years as team options. His salary next season would reflect the rookie scale for players picked in the 2011 draft.

    By doing so, Rubio would risk losing that salary if the 2011-12 season were to be wiped out by a lockout. He could not return to play in Europe to earn a living. Even if the labor dispute was resolved before the end of the season, he might not have the benefit of playing in the summer league or participating in training camp to help him acclimate.

    He could also be passing up a significant amount of money if he did sign. Under the current agreement, an unsigned player who is three years removed from his draft class is no longer bound by the restrictions of the N.B.A. rookie scale, allowing him to negotiate a contract for as much money as the team that holds his rights has under the salary cap. The new labor agreement may not allow such maneuvering.

    Rubio will have to make a decision once his season ends in June. Does he stay with Barcelona or reunite with his coach from Joventut, possibly with Real Madrid? Can he make the jump to the N.B.A., and will it be with the Timberwolves?

    “I’m not focused on the N.B.A. right now,” Rubio said. “Right now, I don’t want to talk and I don’t want to think.”


    Jonathan Givony is the owner of DraftExpress.com, a basketball scouting service.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/23/sports/basketball/23rubio.html
     
  8. Clips/Roxfan

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    Does anyone want to see Ricky Rubio and Blake Griffin playing together on the same team? It could possibly happen as the Clippers still own the rights to the T-Wolves 2012 unprotected first round pick. The T-Wolves can trade Rubio for the rights to their pick back, which could beat the alternative of losing that 2012 pick and having Ricky Rubio remain in Spain.
     
  10. roksoer

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    I'll be attending UOL v Barcelona on the 27th! I'll make sure to comment on his play
     
  11. bullardfan

    bullardfan なんでやねん

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    that would be sick. like payton/kemp all over again. dunno about rubio's defense though.
     
  12. k-money

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    well, actually he never said he didnt. he was traded.
     
  13. syn

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    Over-Rated.

    We have 20/21 yr olds that are much better than him in the league.
    Derrick Rose, Stephen Curry, Russel Westbrook, etc.
     
  14. javal_lon

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    Leave it to my man DD to back up a Europlayer having "leverage"...What kind of leverage is gettin your rights owned by a team for 5 years and stayin overseas?...If he really wants to play, he should be thrilled to "showcase himself"...Looks like he doesnt want to battle it out with the other PG's on Minny's roster...although he would mos definitely win
     
  15. da_juice

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    Really never understood why everyone was so hyped about this guy. He really doesn't look like anything special.
     
  16. da_juice

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    At least Lebron quit after 7 seasons. This brat hasn't played a single game and he's demanding to be on a different team. Newflash kid, you're not going to be the only elite point guard! Westbrook, Rose, Evans, Rondo are all better then you!
     
  17. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    all teams that are set at PG (except MIA who has nothing to offer).
     
  18. glimmertwins

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    Agree with everything here. I actually think Rubio would be a decent fit for the Knicks - probably an upgrade over Felton who is also an average at best shooter. The high pick and roll with Amare would be a pretty effective weapon.

    ...in general though, these are all unlikely scenarios. The majority of small market owners are saving all these little scraps of reported info and are using it to put an end to all this super team talk in the next CBA.
     
  19. glimmertwins

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    Kobe did the same thing....so did Steve Francis. This is hardly a new thing. The thing that baffles me is how these GMs count on immature kids to be professional and honor the commitment of the draft. At some point GMs have to realize it's just not worth wasting a lotto pick on players who have absolutely no intention playing for you. Rubio wouldn't even work out for the Wolves for christ sake....
     
  20. Sanity2disChaos

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    OVERATED SISSY GIRL.........Where they do that at?? play a season and proove yourself before demanding where you want to play kid... :mad:
     

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